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Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by Finnucane »

mkr-hn wrote: post #43
danShumway wrote: post #17

Since the article spends a lot of time talking about Krita, I want to throw some praise its way as well. I moved over to Krita from Clip Studio when I decided to go pure-Linux on all of my computers, not because I thought the software was particularly competitive or good, but because I thought it was the most likely candidate to become competitive and good. Krita still has a lot of rough edges, but I see it on a simi…

I wish there were an open source design app with as much thought behind UX as Krita. I got Affinity Designer just as soon as I found out about it after many failed attempts to understand Inkscape. There's just no comparison. Inkscape needs to have that moment of focus that got Blender over its UX wall.

Boy I wish Affinity would make Linux ports of its products, but it will probably never happen.

Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by mkr-hn »

Finnucane wrote: post #51
mkr-hn wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish there were an open source design app with as much thought behind UX as Krita. I got Affinity Designer just as soon as I found out about it after many failed attempts to understand Inkscape. There's just no comparison. Inkscape needs to have that moment of focus that got Blender over its UX wall.

Boy I wish Affinity would make Linux ports of its products, but it will probably never happen.

Got $500k laying around? https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/626-affini...

I'm sure they're in better financial shape four years later, but that's a lot of money to invest without assurance at least 10,000 people ($500,000/$50 sale price) will buy it.

Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by mavhc »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #48
mavhc wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But how you do run that command only once on every computer? Including ones that are currently not in the building, or on.

Same way as anything, use group policy or a login script that checks first.

But how do you know if it's installed correctly?

Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by mavhc »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #47
mavhc wrote: post #20

I installed Blender at the school I work at because it had an MSI installer. Did not install Krita because it did not. If you want it to be the default used in schools, make it as easy to deploy as possible. The gimp fork Glimpse is planning an MSI installer, so that'll be installed soon

I am not sure if this is relevant to you, but Krita is available from MS Store, so you could get automatic install and auto-updates.

Can't think of anything more horrifying than trying to deploy apps via MS Store

Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by mixmastamyk »

mavhc wrote: post #53
mixmastamyk wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same way as anything, use group policy or a login script that checks first.

But how do you know if it's installed correctly?

What does correctly mean? On windows usually a registry key is checked.

Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by mavhc »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #55
mavhc wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But how do you know if it's installed correctly?

What does correctly mean? On windows usually a registry key is checked.

Exactly, changes from software to software. And how to uninstall?

Much easier to add an MSI to GPO, and then just as easy to remove it again and it's uninstalled.

Not sure how writing scripts to do all that myself for every piece of software is better.

Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by mixmastamyk »

mavhc wrote: post #56
mixmastamyk wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does correctly mean? On windows usually a registry key is checked.

Exactly, changes from software to software. And how to uninstall? Much easier to add an MSI to GPO, and then just as easy to remove it again and it's uninstalled. Not sure how writing scripts to do all that myself for every piece of software is better.

Msi is deprecated.

Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by alexis_fr »

logicalmonster wrote: post #6

What I’ve been impressed with following Blender for a long time is they communicate their development well with their users. They provide demos, give discussions, give example files and videos, and make you realize that the donations are going to something tangible. Other projects don’t do nearly as good of a job with this.

So, they have invested in marketing.

I think early FOSS programmers didn’t value marketing enough, which produced excellent software with difficult adoption. Now, for any software to succeed, a nice UI and good marketing material is the baseline. FOSS that is born since 10 years was much nicer (from Angular to Kibana).

It is even visible in security breach: At one point after Heartbleed, there was a discussion on whether security bugs would now require a nice single-use website with graphic artifacts, in order to get heard by developers.

Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by mavhc »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #57
mavhc wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, changes from software to software. And how to uninstall? Much easier to add an MSI to GPO, and then just as easy to remove it again and it's uninstalled. Not sure how writing scripts to do all that myself for every piece of software is better.

Msi is deprecated.

So you keep saying, although don't see any evidence for it. MS want you to move to using the MS Store, because that's not terrible. Or manually download multiple files, put them all in specific places and use a powershell script to install it, hah, so easy.

MSIX is just a wrapper around an msi, exe, etc installer anyway.

In conclusion, just make an MSI file, they're much better, look at all these great features https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Installer

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