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Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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Re: Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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What sort of men? Cisgender men? Heterosexual men? Arabic men? There's no such thing as a man -- "man" an abstract concept that needs definition before any useful statement can be made about people in that category.

If you need "men" defined for you, you're going to have trouble participating in useful communication. Use a bit of intuition.

doctor_m's question is legitimate though. "Men" is a very large group (obviously), and subgroups may have very different behaviors on this topic; hence asking for "which men?" (although they badly phrased it)

And it's worth noting that the study only focus on heterosexual people, so a more accurate title would be "Heterosexual men hold more positive attitudes towards ex-partners than heterosexual women do"

Re: Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

#52

Anecdotal, however I find that in my lifetime I was/am able to 'move on' and forget about things such as minor disagreements between partners where they (female partners) have tended to dwell on things longer than my male friends. Could have been the same if I had male partners I suppose, although that isn't my personal taste. Not just in relationships but even among co-workers I notice there is a lot more gossip bet…

It's always interesting to see "common knowledge" quantified in studies. I've had a few of the same observations as you, although I have a slightly smaller sample size to work from.

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Oh boy, research showing differences between biological genders. This is going to either be ignored or absolutely explode.

Sexes, not genders. Sexes are biological: chromosomes, hormones, body morphology. Genders are social: baby boys and girls have definite sexes, but their gender identifies are not the same as of grown-up straight men and women, to say nothing of genderqueer people, etc My hope is that the biological aspects are still in the realm of science.

Yes. Gender is arcane, fuzzy, some inscrutable configuration of the brain. Sex is concrete, logical, your allosome configuration.

Phew. A bastion of sense in this crazy w--

>Genetic women with Turner syndrome have only one X chromosome; they often display less-developed female sexual characteristics than other women. And people with a genetic mosaic possess XX chromosomes in some cells and XY in others. So how do we determine if they're male or female? Hint: Don't say that it depends on the chromosomal makeup of the majority of their cells, since women with more than 90 per cent XY genetic material have given birth. [0]

I--

>Sex can be much more complicated than it at first seems. According to the simple scenario, the presence or absence of a Y chromosome is what counts: with it, you are male, and without it, you are female. But doctors have long known that some people straddle the boundary—their sex chromosomes say one thing, but their gonads (ovaries or testes) or sexual anatomy say another. Parents of children with these kinds of conditions—known as intersex conditions, or differences or disorders of sex development (DSDs)—often face difficult decisions about whether to bring up their child as a boy or a girl. Some researchers now say that as many as 1 person in 100 has some form of DSD. [1]

>When genetics is taken into consideration, the boundary between the sexes becomes even blurrier. Scientists have identified many of the genes involved in the main forms of DSD, and have uncovered variations in these genes that have subtle effects on a person's anatomical or physiological sex. What's more, new technologies in DNA sequencing and cell biology are revealing that almost everyone is, to varying degrees, a patchwork of genetically distinct cells, some with a sex that might not match that of the rest of their body. Some studies even suggest that the sex of each cell drives its behaviour, through a complicated network of molecular interactions. “I think there's much greater diversity within male or female, and there is certainly an area of overlap where some people can't easily define themselves within the binary structure,” says John Achermann, who studies sex development and endocrinology at University College London's Institute of Child Health. [1]

>These discoveries do not sit well in a world in which sex is still defined in binary terms. Few legal systems allow for any ambiguity in biological sex, and a person's legal rights and social status can be heavily influenced by whether their birth certificate says male or female. [1]

... ¦´C

0: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/opinion/think-gender-com...

1: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sex-redefined-the...

Re: Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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Oh boy, research showing differences between biological genders. This is going to either be ignored or absolutely explode.

not science until it can be reproduced. and since this is a psychological study...

By that logic, for example, math and some quantum physics are not science. This distinction is useless.

Re: Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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My hot take: Women give and men take in relationships. See life expectancy of married vs unmarried men and the same for women. When a breakup happens women loses more as she committed more.

> Women give and men take in relationships > See life expectancy of married vs unmarried men and the same for women.

Why not look at divorce settlements to decide who takes and who gives?

Muh sexism much.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>biological genders The word you're looking for is "sex." There's no such thing as a "biological gender."

If gender identity is not biological, what is it?

Gender identity is an emergent social construct, there isn't anything biological about it.

Re: Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>biological genders The word you're looking for is "sex." There's no such thing as a "biological gender."

If gender identity is not biological, what is it?

Social conditioning? Let's start at the basics: What do you think "gender identity" means exactly?

Re: Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>biological genders The word you're looking for is "sex." There's no such thing as a "biological gender."

If gender identity is not biological, what is it?

It's all the social stuff that goes along with being a "man", "woman", or whatever other identity we adopt.

Re: Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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Social Psychology has one of the worst reproducibility problems in all of academia. Claims like this make is easy to see why. Simple scientific inquiry into this claim leads me to the question, “Okay, but why?

That women potentially harbor worse feelings of their ex partners on average than men is one of the most interesting but useless things I’ve heard. The confounding explanations for this type of research are mind boggling. Does this research hold cross-culturally, are there any other psychological variables that explain this phenomena? Is it possible that the current nature of modern relationships is a confounding variable and sex has little to do with it? These are the more interesting questions to answer than whatever question this dubious result is trying to answer.

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