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Re: First electric ute engineered in Australia for use in mining and agribusiness

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Post by toomuchtodo » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 3:26 PM UTC

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #43

toomuchtodo wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bigger the battery, the faster it can charge to 80% or so. The last 20% is the slow charge, but if the vehicle is always plugged in when not moving, it’s not a concern.

Most of the time a mining vehicle (or any other vehicle used in a similar setting) is not moving it is nowhere near a plug. It's not like buses or delivery vehicles where they only ever stop when they're at some sort of "home base" where they can charge. A mining vehicle is sitting around somewhere remote while the operator gets out and surveys something or fixes something (or it sits there with HVAC blasting while t…

While a mine itself is remote, they typically either have utility power or on site generation. Many mines are moving to renewables for local generation for cost savings reasons. Anything you have to bring to a remote location is expensive, including power or fuel.

Re: First electric ute engineered in Australia for use in mining and agribusiness

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 4:35 PM UTC

Nition wrote: post #25

maxerickson wrote: post #19

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The Land Cruiser platform in the article is similar in size to the more contemporary Ford Explorer Sport Trac: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Explorer_Sport_Trac It's also probably more comparable mechanically.

Do you guys get the Toyota Hilux[1] in the USA? That's a classic "ute". [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Hilux

The Tacoma is the NA equivalent of the Hilux, and they are close enough in form factor to be considered equivalent for the purposes of this comparison.

Re: First electric ute engineered in Australia for use in mining and agribusiness

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Post by dsfyu404ed » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 6:32 PM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #51

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the time a mining vehicle (or any other vehicle used in a similar setting) is not moving it is nowhere near a plug. It's not like buses or delivery vehicles where they only ever stop when they're at some sort of "home base" where they can charge. A mining vehicle is sitting around somewhere remote while the operator gets out and surveys something or fixes something (or it sits there with HVAC blasting while t…

While a mine itself is remote, they typically either have utility power or on site generation. Many mines are moving to renewables for local generation for cost savings reasons. Anything you have to bring to a remote location is expensive, including power or fuel.

How the mine gets its power is irrelevant. The point is that these vehicles are rarely stationary at any sort of base where they can charge. Most mines run 24/7 (though often not at full capacity during the "off" hours). The duty cycle is much higher than buses and delivery vehicles.

Re: First electric ute engineered in Australia for use in mining and agribusiness

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 7:40 PM UTC

Nition wrote: post #25

maxerickson wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Land Cruiser platform in the article is similar in size to the more contemporary Ford Explorer Sport Trac: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Explorer_Sport_Trac It's also probably more comparable mechanically.

Do you guys get the Toyota Hilux[1] in the USA? That's a classic "ute". [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Hilux

We used to. I had the 4x4 version and I miss that truck. It was absolutely bulletproof and would go anywhere and get back home in one piece.

Since 1993 or so it's been replaced by the Tacoma which might be even better, but not as simple mechanically.

Re: First electric ute engineered in Australia for use in mining and agribusiness

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Post by Jedd » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 9:32 PM UTC

mieseratte wrote: post #45

Jedd wrote: post #37

> It’s available in 20 to 120 kilowatt hour battery packs, with modular battery packs in it, and has a 700 Newton meter electric motor in it,” said Possingham. I bet you he said Newton metre. It's an extra kicker that people who don't use metric units also get to change the spelling of metric units the rest of us are using.

> I bet you he said Newton metre. Are `meter` and `metre` pronounced differently? > It's an extra kicker that people who don't use metric units also get to change the spelling of metric units the rest of us are using. Assuming you are referring to the US, we use metric. We just don't use it for everything. What a strange high-horse you sit on.

> Are `meter` and `metre` pronounced differently?

I wouldn't imagine so.

Bit like how cheque and check aren't pronounced differently -- so not really homonyms, as the meaning is the same (or at least in the North American interpretation usage, one of the meanings matches the meanings of the standard English word / spelling).

In English, meter is a device used to measure something, and it's convenient to distinguish that by spelling (rather than relying on potentially ambiguous context) from the SI unit for length -- the metre.

Similarly, a thousand x 1kg (SI unit for mass) gives you a tonne -- this is also easily distinguished from the myriad variations of 'ton' that may refer to mass or volume (eg UK, US, long, short, harbour). Seeing US publications regularly use the phrase 'a metric ton' provokes a similar reaction of despair for my horse.