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Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

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Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

#51
post #43

Honestly its getting out of hand. I have everything blocked I can think of [1], and even browsing in private mode, I still sometimes get the "recommended for you" on YouTube. Stop invading my privacy. [1] https://cup.github.io/rosso/youtube

It's probably just using your IP address.

Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

#52
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds like a risk for using Google Analytics to me. If your analytics suite isn’t representative of your site’s traffic and users, maybe you should look for a more ethical platform/solution?

Are there more ethical platforms that don't get blocked by default for Firefox users?

Self-hosted analytics like Matomo for instance.

https://github.com/matomo-org/matomo

Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

#53
post #25

This is great! On another note, I'm wondering when I can remove uBlock Origin?

I guess it boils down to your goal with using uBlock Origin. Are you anti-tracking or anti-ad? This blocks some ads as almost a side-effect but that isn't its goal. If ads aren't tracking, they're fully visible/working.

I use this because I value my privacy, but choose not to use uBlock Origin because I understand websites I use need revenue. It is about finding your own personal balance.

Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

#54
post #25

This is great! On another note, I'm wondering when I can remove uBlock Origin?

uBO relies on 3rd-party filter lists to know what to block. The most popular of these is Easylist, which is not well-maintained and doesn't have a good appeal process. I don't think Firefox should build this in unless they're going to support the maintenance of a high-quality filter list with a transparent add/remove process.

Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

#55
post #25

This is great! On another note, I'm wondering when I can remove uBlock Origin?

I don’t think Firefox will get into complete built-in ad blocking, like Brave does. But the days (or years) of uBlock Origin seem to be numbered because of the approach proposed by Chrome (called Manifest V3) to prevent extensions from modifying network requests, and being limited to just providing a block list of URLs for the browser engine to block (this design has been the case with Safari’s built-in content blocking).

Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

#56
post #13

Do they include also the google analytics that are built into firefox addons page?

Can you elaborate what page you mean? I see nothing in the source of https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=blah or about:addons

I believe they are talking about an outdated issue:

https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/issues/2785#issue...

Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

#57
post #40

must be a joke since this link gets eaten by privacy badger. Full of trackers. edit: originally referred to blog.mozilla.com

Privacy Badger gave me one hit, netdna-ssl, at the "Blocked Cookies" level. No hits on uBlock or the new enhanced tracking protection thing. What trackers are you seeing?

Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

#58
post #47
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or just actively punishing Firefox because blocking tracking is also blocking ads, which is their revenue model. Why spend money optimizing for a browser that doesn't generate revenue? If Firefox becomes the bastion of privacy sensitive people it will become more and more like Tor users, all tainted with the same labels. I mean it's already the case that recaptcha will more likely trigger on Firefox than Chrome, aski…

As far as I remember, when websites were doing window pop-ups and Google toolbar removed them, they didn't block the toolbar users. So, the risk is low... unless Firefox does something stupid like full ad-blocking. But if something like this happens, I will be happy to build/use an extension for the other browsers that makes such websites invisible in all major social networks.

Matter of time until Chrome simply bans such extensions.

Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

#59
post #12
post #2

I see one risk for Firefox: if they block all trackers, e.g. Google Analytics, then it would appear to people viewing browser statistics in Google Analytics that no-one is using Firefox, and thus the developers will be told they don't need to test anything on Firefox.

Or just actively punishing Firefox because blocking tracking is also blocking ads, which is their revenue model. Why spend money optimizing for a browser that doesn't generate revenue? If Firefox becomes the bastion of privacy sensitive people it will become more and more like Tor users, all tainted with the same labels. I mean it's already the case that recaptcha will more likely trigger on Firefox than Chrome, aski…

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Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

#60

The downside of all of this is that I feel like sites are now intentionally being designed to break if this kind of stuff is blocked. I used to be able to use Firefox Focus (which has tracking protection built-in) to pay most of my bills. This was convenient because I would just open up the one site in FFF, pay the bill, and then close it, with all browsing history automatically deleted. In the past month about 3 of…

> The downside of all of this is that I feel like sites are now intentionally being designed to break if this kind of stuff is blocked. That's fine by me. It's an up-front indication that I don't want to use that service. In the case of bill pay, I would just change my user agent string.

You are working around the problem, but the underlying issue is still there, which is not fine. I do not consider those practices fine just because I may have found a workaround. :/
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