What the Hell Was Modernism?

Post by thedaemon » Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 8:48 PM UTC

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I don't think the size of any painting can make it better. Especially if it's something a 2 year old can and will paint. As an artist myself, I've always disliked and never understood why people like modernist artworks. Picasso's best work was his early work, before he gave up on painting life. That some people think they get this crap artwork is just hilarious and just goes to show you can hock anything if you prete…

What a sad and myopic take on art, especially coming from a self-proclaimed artist. Obviously you're entitled to your opinion, but why make such bitter sounding absolutist statements about what other people create or enjoy? There's enough negativity in this world already. Additionally, the fact that you're judging the relative worth of a piece of art based on it lasting for 1000 years is pretty sad, in my opinion. Wh…

Post by thedaemon » Thu, Oct 17, 2019, 9:56 PM UTC

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You make very good points and I'd have to agree with you if this was anything other than "modern art". Modern art is not art in the sense it's not a highly crafted work. It's minimum effort. The time frame was given to acknowledge the fact that we think this is "art". In the future we will know this is junk and not art. I really dislike most pop art, but at least it's art. A big yellow square canvas in no way should…

You're conflating craftsmanship with art. There are literally factories in China where painters paint replicas of classic art works at scale. They paint hundreds, even thousands of such pieces every year. They're undoubtedly very skilled painters. But would you call their work "art"? How much time and effort something takes has no bearing on whether or not it is art. Something that takes 5 years to make isn't automat…

Post by puranjay » Fri, Oct 18, 2019, 4:31 AM UTC

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Imagine you're a wealthy man in late 19th century Europe. You own a nice neo gothic home in the fancy part of the city. Like other wealthy men, you too dabble in collecting some art. You own a few romantic pieces with exceptional craftsmanship. You proudly display them in your living room amid all your fancy, ornate furniture. But something is amiss. All your artwork starts looking the same. And why wouldn't it - all…

"if it makes you feel something, it's art" is not correct at all. This is what I'm trying to state. Art is craftmanship then to you, since you can't understand that art requires skill or talent.

Post by tabtab » Mon, Oct 21, 2019, 5:52 PM UTC

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Almost all eras have extreme, overdone, or ridiculous works done in it. We tend to forget such over time and remember the good ones, or at least the most controversial or novel ones. Some of the depictions of hell around the early renaissance can make one cringe just as much as some "modern" art. The flying wanker from the Roman Pompey ruins is also a hoot. The lack of perspective in medieval art is still a curious p…

I'm pretty sure the lack of realism in medieval art has to do with the commandment against worshiping false idols.