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This incident has gone wild on popular overseas Chinese forums criticizing the double standards and mistreatments. It’ll be interesting and eye opening if someone could translate the information shared there.
Since you seem to be active in those forums yourself, maybe you could do the translating?
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Why should you take the companies advice to stay quiet when you believe they're the ones who were at fault?
Exactly. We wouldn't expect silence from a factory worker who saw working conditions contribute to the death of a coworker, so why should we expect it from a tech worker who witnesses the same? Facebook trying to suppress this worker's voice is morally abhorrent.
It’s called suicidal contagion: https://www.hhs.gov/answers/mental-health-and-substance-abus...
This article appears to have some fundamental misunderstandings. Their description of the review system is not stack ranking, in which employees are ranked in a hierarchy and the lowest on the totem are fired. Instead, the "meets/exceeds" scale has been pretty standard wherever I've worked. Further, it seems that FB HR asked the source of this article to not speak to the press about an internal event that involved a…
Not just the press, the source was also asked not to talk about it internally > Based on the information provided by multiple sources, PingWest also discovered that Facebook is actively attempting to block internal discussions of Mr. Chen's death. Employees were discouraged to talk about the incident, verbally and in written form, with other employees
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Exactly. We wouldn't expect silence from a factory worker who saw working conditions contribute to the death of a coworker, so why should we expect it from a tech worker who witnesses the same? Facebook trying to suppress this worker's voice is morally abhorrent.
Part of the problem is a lot of internal conversation about suicide can actually trigger surviving people with suicidal tendencies. It’s a pragmatic recommendation supported by the medical community to limit communication related to a suicide; it’s not just a PR move. It’s called suicidal contagion: https://www.hhs.gov/answers/mental-health-and-substance-abus...
However I think we need to weight that risk with the risk that future suicides will occur for the same reason as the first, not inspired by the first, if the circumstances that lead to the first suicide are left unresolved. Addressing those circumstances means having an honest discussion about what happened, which can only happen if people are allowed to talk about it.
(Obviously glorification/etc of the suicide should be strictly off limits. There need to be guardrails on the discussion to mitigate risk.)
It's quite the lengthy article but the crux of what they believe led to his suicide is here: Relevant sources unveiled that before Mr. Chen’s last PSC, he had already been under pressure from the advertising department, so he expected to shift to other groups to maintain his job in Facebook and the opportunity to work in the United States. According to informed sources told PingWest that, Mr. Chen’s group had undergo…
The new manager reportedly gave Mr. Chen verbal approval and told him to stay on the team until the PSC, but eventually gave him the "Meets Most" rating, which factually voided Mr. Chen's transfer request because the other group is very unlikely to accommodate a new IC who just received the worst possible rating, according to Facebook internal sources close to Mr. Chen. I've heard this pattern (manager drops performa…
It's quite the lengthy article but the crux of what they believe led to his suicide is here: Relevant sources unveiled that before Mr. Chen’s last PSC, he had already been under pressure from the advertising department, so he expected to shift to other groups to maintain his job in Facebook and the opportunity to work in the United States. According to informed sources told PingWest that, Mr. Chen’s group had undergo…
Man, I can't imagine working in such an environment. It feels so detached to normal human interaction. Couple questions as I don't (and largely have no intention to) work in Silicon Valley: - Shouldn't the bar for transfers be roughly the same as the bar for initial employment? As in, give the candidates a similar interview process as if they were coming outside of the company into that team? Why would a transfer be…
My brother, a GP doctor, said that he writes a lot of scripts for antidepressants every performance review season. Performance management sucks. The racial tenor of this article seems bizarre and over the top, though?
My brother, a GP doctor, said that he writes a lot of scripts for antidepressants every performance review season. Performance management sucks. The racial tenor of this article seems bizarre and over the top, though?
maybe I’m missing something but people don’t normally take antidepressants to deal with one off periods of stress, right?
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In America at least, black clothing (typically formal wear, the specifics vary from place to place) is strongly associated with mourning. It's traditional garb at funerals and gatherings to pay respects for the departed. This may be different in other countries, and it's not a universal practice, but it's common enough that most everyone understands the meaning.
For context for those who are not already aware, since this is being downvoted... white traditionally has the same associations in Chinese culture. So it was not an entirely unreasonable question. The answer is just that this happened in the US, not China, and wearing white in the US would be unusual.