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My Time at Snap

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Re: My Time at Snap

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Post by curiousgal »

paxys wrote: post #42
curiousgal wrote: post #19

Tangent. How is it logical to deprive people from access to a booth just because people in a wheelchair can't access it? That's like banning computer screens because blind people can't see them.

You don't see a problem with part of the workforce not given equal tools and opportunity to be able to do their job as well as others?

Well now no one has those tools, so from a business perspective (even without going into how many people with disabilities are in the workforce) having part of the workforce with more access to a tool is better.

Re: My Time at Snap

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Post by blt »

> trying to figure out how to rework my long-term financial plans around the hole Snap had just blown in my projected income made me feel ill.

Maybe don't make long-term financial plans around a company that's obviously unstable?

Re: My Time at Snap

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Post by untog »

And this is why companies offer you stock on a vesting schedule that keeps you around.

The author knew it would be a shitshow before they even started. But took the job because of the stock. Started at the job, found it to be terrible. Stuck around... because of the stock. And so on. Meanwhile, your bet rests on the company, which you now know to be a badly run shitshow, beating estimates and turning a healthy profit. Surely you know that isn't going to happen. At a certain point you're making a life decision based around the hope that stock market investors are too stupid to see the obvious. Then scale that thought process up to an entire company, and you wonder why the place isn't functional.

I do have sympathy for the author, no-one deserves to work in a miserable job. But that's why we have the option of quitting. Stock vesting fundamentally affects that.

Re: My Time at Snap

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Post by paxys »

curiousgal wrote: post #51
paxys wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't see a problem with part of the workforce not given equal tools and opportunity to be able to do their job as well as others?

Well now no one has those tools, so from a business perspective (even without going into how many people with disabilities are in the workforce) having part of the workforce with more access to a tool is better.

Well the ADA doesn't exist for the benefit of the business - quite the opposite in fact.

Re: My Time at Snap

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Post by duxup »

>you could walk around miles of Venice Beach streets pointing out unmarked office after unmarked office as you went along. A seemingly empty storefront here, a nondescript house there, the top level of an apartment building over that way.

Is that legal in that area?

I lived in a townhouse association where someone started the company out of his house. Eventually he started hiring and it didn't take long for everyone to notice his employees were taking all the parking. Fortunately the city had zoning laws and he chose to move when push came to shove.

Re: My Time at Snap

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Post by rwallace »

librish wrote: post #10

There seems to be a valuable lesson for OP about the cost of not playing ball here. Assuming OPs side of things is mostly true it sounds like: - OP was working for a bad director, one so bad that they eventually got fired - Instead of placating this director and pretending to take their concerns into consideration, OP fights back more than other teammates (reading between the lines of the quote "However, given that I…

He did play ball. He played ball for month after month, even as the cost of playing ball kept ramping up and up and up. Eventually it became higher than he could stand, and he started showing symptoms of mental health problems. At that point, he wisely left rather than end up with full-blown depression.

When you are dealing with people such that what they want is not for you to get a job done, but to humiliate you for the pleasure of wielding power, there is no fixed cost that will qualify you as having played ball, no bargain such that you can keep your side and trust them to keep theirs. The cost will always keep going up. The only questions are when the endgame will be reached, and what you will do then.

Re: My Time at Snap

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Post by leni536 »

paxys wrote: post #40
joejerryronnie wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would make it a point to sleep for the first 30 minutes of any meeting.

Seriously, that thing would be booked 24x7 at my company. Being able to lie down while on a call would make things so much more relaxing and productive.

Too risky for falling asleep.

Re: My Time at Snap

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Post by untog »

curiousgal wrote: post #19

Tangent. How is it logical to deprive people from access to a booth just because people in a wheelchair can't access it? That's like banning computer screens because blind people can't see them.

Well "logical" just leads us down a weird path here. Is it "logical" to hire disabled employees at all? It's a lot of work to make your office accessible, so the "logical" answer would be to only hire able bodied people.

Thankfully the world doesn't actually work that way. We make buildings accessible because it's the right thing to do, and because society has decided that excluding people (who are already greatly disadvantaged) is wrong.

Rules like ADA aren't designed to make the most logical sense, they're designed to work. If you don't mandate the shutdown of the inaccessible booths then the company has very little incentive to fix the problem.

Re: My Time at Snap

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Post by ranman »

One day, when the vests run out, I’ll write an article about my time at AWS...

It’s not nearly this bad but there are some stories that are worth telling.

Re: My Time at Snap

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Post by untog »

alaskamiller wrote: post #3

Prior to the first day of boot camp they flown us to an airport in San Diego, everyone gathered at the USO lounge on the opposite end of the airport to wait for everyone else flying in. At midnight, a bus rolls in to the parking lot. Everyone was told to line up in a formation, head forward, arms straight and down to the side. The bus door opens and out pops a drill instructor with the vigor of a tasmanian devil, bar…

> Every organization has whackadoo indoctrination.

Nope. Just whackaddo organizations. I'd argue the Marine Corps is included in that, but at least they have the excuse of needing soldiers to be able to depend on each other for their lives. Snap... not so much.

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