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Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Post by unicornfinder »

chank wrote: post #47
tenebrisalietum wrote: post #42

Microsoft is clearly taking moves that enable "PC as a service". I imagine the end game is something like you pay Microsoft so much a month on a subscription, receive hardware that is preconfigured with and tied to your Microsoft account details or your company's Azure AD configuration and locked down with InTune, unhackable with properly implemented Class 3+ UEFI and Secure Boot, etc. You then purchase additional so…

Deal is, big corps want it. Everything as a service. Easy to write off. Easy to ramp up and down as needed.

Hell, even small companies would. I work at a company with roughly 50 staff and honestly I reckon my bosses would love this.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Post by behnamoh »

NotSammyHagar wrote: post #16
aaomidi wrote: post #8

I just want them to let me pick my own god damned name for the home folder. I hate the weird shit they pick for me.

why do people still use windows? It's stupid and naive to ask that, but I keep wondering why devs aren't successful in getting changes made at their companies.

For the same reason they kept using Windows in the first place: spreadsheets (read "business").

When most of the business world relies on Windows, more and more software gets developed for it which in turn encourages even more people to use that shit. Seriously, if you want to stop this madness (Windows), you should start at the top of the pyramid and persuade businesses to switch to something "sane".

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Post by philliphaydon »

1_player wrote: post #15

The online account is crap. I converted my offline account recently to the online one, just to see what's the difference. The difference is that I cannot even set a password, it asks me to set up a PIN number to log in. Of course you can set it to accept letters in your PIN, so it can function as a regular password. But what the hell is the point? (In fact, I didn't set any PIN the first time and at the next reboot I…

Just change your login method? I use pin at home desktop and password on my laptop.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Post by detaro »

bitwize wrote: post #50
JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people on HN, I would postulate, don't use Windows. We might use VS Code, we might use Azure, but we aren't using Microsoft's operating system.

Then explain all those "Windows with WSL is the only Linux desktop I'll ever use" posts.

Not made by most people, and (anecdotally) often made by people for which the alternative to a "Linux desktop" is a Mac, not Windows.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Post by amiga-workbench »

egdod wrote: post #26

>Windows is a service Windows used to be a fucking operating system. That’s all I want it to be.

Its pretty much the McDonalds of operating systems these days, I do not know how people put up with it.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Post by wslh »

mkl wrote: post #17
wslh wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a dark pattern because it is from a corporation that know what they are doing and had passed all the internal UI/UX tests. At this time it should be punished as well as its difficult to avoid telemetry issues.

I agree it's a dark pattern. I've seen much worse dark patterns though, so it's hardly beyond that.

I don't think this is a light dark pattern. Once you sign up in your desktop computer, which it is also called a personal computer, this is not personal anymore.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Post by jrockway »

NotSammyHagar wrote: post #16
aaomidi wrote: post #8

I just want them to let me pick my own god damned name for the home folder. I hate the weird shit they pick for me.

why do people still use windows? It's stupid and naive to ask that, but I keep wondering why devs aren't successful in getting changes made at their companies.

I use Windows because pretty much every program ever runs on Windows. Buy some weird device? Hey, it has drivers! Want to play the latest game? Hey, there's a Windows version! The same is simply not true of other platforms. The reality is that it's the most popular OS, so when someone can only write their computer program once, they do it for Windows. It sucks, but that's how it is.

I use Linux for pretty much all my work, though, preferring a Linux VM to a Windows-native setup. I have tried to make Powershell usable, but the console is terrible (and the replacements are equally bad) and the language itself isn't that amazing. (Their "curl" equivalent requires you to open IE once to activate some setting, for example.) I also hate putty. Never in the history of computing has a program made it so difficult to use the same font for every server you connect to, or to talk to something on a serial port, etc. The way Windows deals with serial ports and the like is so silly that I just have an RPi on my desk for interacting with USB devices... I ssh to that, and then don't deal with Windows anymore.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Post by maple3142 »

NotSammyHagar wrote: post #16
aaomidi wrote: post #8

I just want them to let me pick my own god damned name for the home folder. I hate the weird shit they pick for me.

why do people still use windows? It's stupid and naive to ask that, but I keep wondering why devs aren't successful in getting changes made at their companies.

Able to play many games without hassle?

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Post by HenryKissinger »

JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #44
xeeeeeeeeeeenu wrote: post #41

I don't understand why so many people on HN praise Satya Nadella. I guess good PR is worth much more than actions. Before Nadella, Windows wasn't nearly as user-hostile as it is now. There was no mandatory telemetry, there were no forced updates, end users weren't treated as betatesters and QA wasn't non-existent. And now they are taking away the ability to use Windows without Microsoft Account. Of course there are a…

Most people on HN, I would postulate, don't use Windows. We might use VS Code, we might use Azure, but we aren't using Microsoft's operating system.

Windows remains the most convenient OS for video games, and given HN's userbase (mostly young men), I think a lot of people here use Windows.
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