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Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Post by benburleson »

CDSlice wrote: post #44
benburleson wrote: post #36

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Which is insane.. do people really use the wireless capability of their keyboard or mouse? Especially when you can't use your freaking mouse when it's charging? Serious insanity. Edit to add: of course I know people use those keyboards... I meant are people actually moving with them in ways that makes the wireless capability useful? Do most users not stay in a pretty close proximity the whole time?

Yes? I love my wireless keyboard and mouse, although they run off of AA batteries so I don't need to recharge them.

In this case, is the freedom of wireless worth the hassle+cost of batteries?

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Post by Skunkleton »

lliamander wrote: post #49

Slightly off-topic, but who here uses a HEDT (high-end desktop) or workstation computer for software development? Does it make a significant difference in comparison with a standard business laptop?

I use a desktop, not sure I would call it high end (32 GiB, 6 cores, nvme). I do lots of large builds of things like linux kernels. I doubt any laptop would be able to keep up simply due to thermals.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Post by daxelrod »

wyxuan wrote: post #33
cwyers wrote: post #29

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Honestly I feel like reading that just leaves me confused. There have been some rough spots, but it seems like it's much less contentious than the relationship between Apple and Samsung, and Samsung still makes iPhone displays.

Thats because Samsung owns the IP and the expertise to make OLED displays which no one else makes. Its not a choice.

Samsung made Apple panels long before OLED was used in iPhones.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Post by ctrl-j »

lostgame wrote: post #18
olliej wrote: post #3

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It’s seems like they went all in on AMD a few years ago, so I assume they have a bunch of long term agreements that lower the price? It’s more irksome to me that they don’t have a high spec non-pro desktop. Eg I want high end consumer desktop GPUs, not high end mobile GPUs (afaict that’s essentially what iMacs use). But my alternative appears to be “pro” GPUs with their absurd - for a consumer at least - markups and…

eGPUs have been supported for a couple years now. Grab a Mac Mini, an eGPU, max out the RAM, add an external hard drive or two, boom, your ‘pro consumer’ Mac for about $2k.

Just don't get an nvidia GPU for your eGPU solution.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Post by CDSlice »

benburleson wrote: post #51
CDSlice wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes? I love my wireless keyboard and mouse, although they run off of AA batteries so I don't need to recharge them.

In this case, is the freedom of wireless worth the hassle+cost of batteries?

To me, yes. Having two less cables running around is nice and less hassle. To me that is easily worth spending a few dollars twice a year for batteries.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Post by thrwn_frthr_awy »

jonplackett wrote: post #48
bradly wrote: post #38

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There is no touchbar included with new Mac Pro.

but there's never a bad moment to complain about the touch bar.

This is the frustrating part. The amount of innovation pushed forward in desktop computing in the past 20 years and every once in a while they get some things wrong and people just can't believe it. Manufacturing and component commitments make "Oh just remove the touchbar" comments lacking of substance. Same with removing the headphone jack conversation–no one wants to talk about the trade-offs in making a phone waterproof whether they trade a headphone jack for a waterproof phone. Most people would, probably, which is why it is gone.

Sorry, I'm new here and half the comments I read are bickering about some feature a someone doesn't think it optimal for how they use their device.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Post by benburleson »

chrisseaton wrote: post #41
benburleson wrote: post #36

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Which is insane.. do people really use the wireless capability of their keyboard or mouse? Especially when you can't use your freaking mouse when it's charging? Serious insanity. Edit to add: of course I know people use those keyboards... I meant are people actually moving with them in ways that makes the wireless capability useful? Do most users not stay in a pretty close proximity the whole time?

> do people really use the wireless capability of their keyboard or mouse? Yes. Why wouldn't you? Why do you think the downsides are? > Especially when you can't use your freaking mouse when it's charging? I charge it for about ten minutes every month while I'm out. It doesn't interfere with anything.

The downside is requiring charging or batteries. I just have a hard time justifying the hassle when I have no need to make those devices wireless.

And my battery always (when I had one) died mid-day, so it forced a work break, which isn't always bad anyway

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Post by deminature »

lliamander wrote: post #49

Slightly off-topic, but who here uses a HEDT (high-end desktop) or workstation computer for software development? Does it make a significant difference in comparison with a standard business laptop?

On extremely large projects (15-20 minutes to compile from scratch or longer), the more compute power available, the more productive you can be.

Cumulative wasted minutes from compilation over the course of a year can add up to a lot.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Post by snailmailman »

benburleson wrote: post #51
CDSlice wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes? I love my wireless keyboard and mouse, although they run off of AA batteries so I don't need to recharge them.

In this case, is the freedom of wireless worth the hassle+cost of batteries?

My mouse needs new batteries maybe twice a year. The keyboard I’m using lasts considerably longer (maybe once every two years? I don’t keep track, but I’ve done it maybe once or twice, if ever)

The convenience of being able to use it anywhere is minor but I don’t mind the hassle.

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