Not completely related, but the tone of the two tweets linked in the article doesn’t make sense to me. The first is a reasonable request for a comment about an issue that Shanley cares about, but it’s immediately followed by a comment a minute later screaming at Chef to take a certain action while hurling epithets at them in all-caps. How can you possibly assume good faith from the first comment after reading the second? Why didn’t she just go straight to attacking them if that was clearly her intention?
Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE
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Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE
#52You would be a fool to hire this guy after this stunt.
I am pretty sure that guy bas been doing well enough that he could retire fairly successfully at this point if he really wanted to.
Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you think this action had any net impact on ICE operations?
The goal was not to disrupt ICE, Chef, or any organization thereof. The goal was to remove my code from an ecosystem that was using it for purposes I perceive as evil. I had no goals of disrupting ICE operations or Chef operations. I suspected a small percentage of people with a hard, runtime dependency would be impacted, but I did not know Chef (the software) had a hard runtime dependency and was pulling that depend…
Besides the political statement, do you have any technical opinion about an organization such as Chef shipping things that have runtime deps to third parties?
Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE
#54You would be a fool to hire this guy after this stunt.
You would be a fool to buy things from Chef after they show such a trivial vulnerability.
Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE
#55Hi there. I’m around to answer any questions!
Do you think that there is a point in having boarders between countries? If so how should they be enforced? If a 17 year "child" crosses the boarder should they be detained (ie. kept in prison until deportation) or should they be allowed to walk free in the US. If a child and parent both crossed the border should only the parents be detained leaving the child to fend for itself in America? Should they be detained in the same cell? ie keep children detained with adult.
I agree that keeping children in cages is not good, but there are solutions. If ice had a bigger budget maybe it could have more beds, larger cells, better food. I don't see how removing enforcement is a solution.
Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks, I overlooked that somehow. (pre-morning tea over here :) ) I haven't read many OSS licenses. Can't someone just publish an 'unethical' fork and life goes on?
Someone (Chef) has already unethically forked it.
If forking a public github repo is unethical we are all screwed.
Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE
#57You would be a fool to hire this guy after this stunt.
What stunt? He removed an open source library from his own personal account because he felt the nazis shouldn't be using his software. It's kinda like when IBM sold the nazis hardware to keep track of the Jews.
Detaining and deporting people illegally crossing a border is far, far from comparable to the deliberate extermination an religious minority. There are good objections to make regarding treatment of migrants at the border, but this kind of extreme hyperbole seriously cuts away at the credibility of those arguments.
Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a political statement. This action receiving news coverage is net impact.
It's a political statement that will do nothing but echo in people's respective echo chambers. It'll get positive coverage like this in places like the Daily Dot and MSNBC, and Tucker Carlson will use it as "just another example of far left Silicon Valley attempting to circumvent our laws". The net impact is zero.
Tucker Carlson talking about this is a good outcome. This will only highlight the power that open source and open source contributors have. Lol, a political kerfuffle over an devops FOSS project.
Make working with ICE a toxic asset. Make people not proud of working for ICE contractors.
Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Violent protests are not the way to fix things... pulling support from them is...
If ICE are literally Nazi's and immigration deletion centers are literally concentration camps, then why not? After all that would mean that they are effectively the embodiment of evil. You would be a hero. If you actually genuinely believe that then I can't see why you wouldn't. Unless deep down you're self aware that you're using such rhetoric not because it is valid but because you think it supports your political…
> literally concentration camps
They're not death camps but they are literally concentration camps.
Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE
#60Hi there. I’m around to answer any questions!
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