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Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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My main issue is still that a lot of movies I want to pay for and see is not available, or that subtitles are missing or not working.

This has made me stop purchasing movies, stopped subscriptions and instead invest in a smaller fee for a good VPN connection.

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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No. Everyone wanted to get rid of both the cable bundle and channels. People just want on-demand access to whatever shows.

For cheap ^ If someone finds themselves chasing whatever streaming service has The Office, maybe it's worth dropping the $300 or whatever for everything on iTunes.

iTunes regularly has sales on The Office complete series for $30. Someone who chases a single show through streaming services is not doing it right.

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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I think there is a model for rotating streaming provider. You can easily watch a year's worth of a provider's [good] content in 3 months. Just change provider every 3 months to a different one, then binge it all. Maybe a service that automatically deactivates your account at the best point in the billing-cycle? If you could do it without too much overlap you could actually do it on a monthly basis: Jan - Netflix Feb…

Though unrealistic, all things considered, there needs to be a single site for everything (akin to pirated tv/film sites, incidentally). The user would go to a central place where all streaming options are available to be browsed and watched. The point of differentiation would be at payment, as the cost to the user, for whatever they just selected, would go to those who own the rights. No walled gardens, everyone win…

Technical aspects are trivial - pirate streaming sites have no problem managing a single portal that pulls from a wide array of video sources and players.

The problem is with the exclusive deals, with the IP holders ruining the space for everyone in an attempt to maximize short-term revenue (it will kill their long-term revenue), perhaps thinking this is battle royale, and they obviously will be a platform that wins in the end.

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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“Your circle” unless it includes families with small kids, isn’t Disney’s primary audience. Most normal middle class people aren’t going to go through the trouble of pirating movies and setting up a Plex server and then worry about setting up their router to get a good connection while they are away from home and even then deal with the abysmally slow upload speed of the typical home network instead of spending $8 a…

You don't understand how low-friction piracy is these days. Only techies deal with automation and Plex. Most people just buy a "fully loaded" android box which lists thumbnails for all the latest movies and TV shows on various file storage sites. They select a thumbnail and the movie plays. Nothing local at all, all streamed.

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Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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“Your circle” unless it includes families with small kids, isn’t Disney’s primary audience. Most normal middle class people aren’t going to go through the trouble of pirating movies and setting up a Plex server and then worry about setting up their router to get a good connection while they are away from home and even then deal with the abysmally slow upload speed of the typical home network instead of spending $8 a…

> Most normal middle class people aren’t going to go through the trouble of pirating movies and setting up a Plex server and then worry about setting up their router to get a good connection while they are away from home and even then deal with the abysmally slow upload speed of the typical home network instead of spending $8 a month to just have the convenience of Disney+ to be a glorified babysitter. Depending on t…

Moreover, it's not like there aren't pirate streaming services available. In fact, I can't think of anyone non-technical I know who torrents anything; they all stream movies from pirate player sites. It's easier, and also perfectly legal for the viewer.

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

#56

Good point When there are too many options it's becoming too much of an hassle to actually choose something Just think on yourself getting into a restaurant with a massive menu, choosing a dish will be hard on the other hand, a pop up restaurant with 3 dishes will make the dinner much more fun for everyone (that's from my expirience at least)

What if you don't really want any of the 3 dishes?

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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"May" drive them back? This has already happened in my circles.. People who had cut the cord but all but walked away from casual piracy and signed up for Netflix and HBO (and probably Prime Video because they had Amazon Prime already) are openly talking about the fact they're definitely not signing up for more streaming services, and are seeking out torrenting again for the stuff that's being pulled from Netflix (esp…

I agree. There is definitely a market for a streaming bundling service where you pay for a bundle and get subscribed to multiple services for some monthly fee which would be at a great discount to subscribing separately to each service.

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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Although I'd prefer to have everything on Netflix, I'm definitely going to get Disney+. Not a fan of Disney the corporation, but if Disney+ contains everything Star Wars, everything Marvel, everything from Jim Henson, and everything from all their other properties, there's no way I'm going to pay for easy access to that. We don't even watch regular TV anymore at my home. It's either Netflix or Youtube.

There are only one or two Marvel or Star Wars movies a year though. Is that really worth subscribing to a streaming service for? (Not to mention that only maybe a quarter of these movies are worth seeking out, the rest are something I’d only ever watch for free on an airplane or something. But that’s just personal taste).

Seeing the box office results of Disney’s movies, your anecdotal opinion doesn’t jibe with the overall market. Besides, there will also be Disney original MCU and Star Wars TV series.

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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Why don't major services (Netflix, Disney, HULU, etc) come together to build a best of breed shared service, that operates vendor-neutrally, and each gets to keep all the profits from people watching their stuff? Each could still have its own promotions, bundles, etc (e.g. pay X more to watch new movies from Disney), but at least the base proposition can have a single subscription price and some pay as you consume mo…

They could create a new company to keep track of who is watching what so each content creator gets paid accordingly. And it would be one company to pay for the per view option you describe. I could see this growing to 100s of different content providers and available to nearly every home!

It's interesting that we've come full circle. This seems like an opportunity for the tv streaming services to add streaming content from different providers and eventually we end up with a 150/mo for streaming TV with premium channels like HBO, NETFLIX, DISNEY, ESPN, etc.

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

#60
Ugh, I am so sick of the "if all of the content I ever want isn't available for less than a single $10 a month sub, I'll pirate it" nonsense. Netflix was never going to be the be-all, end-all of content and its time our generation grew up a little bit.

For the amount of content you could get in a traditional cable package, you should expect to pay about as much as a traditional cable package.

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