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Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by nvrspyx »

als0 wrote: post #28
bryanlarsen wrote: post #14

Presumably Apple doesn't make a new SE because it would kill their margins. And it'd be hard for them to make the SE expensive because it would probably be thicker, with a cheaper screen, worse battery life and worse performance (because of battery & cooling). But I'm sure they could come up with some semi-plausible reason to make an "SE Pro" so they can keep those margins. How about owning the extra thickness and gi…

> it would probably be thicker, with a cheaper screen, worse battery life and worse performance (because of battery & cooling). I might be wrong, but I recall that even though the SE had technically inferior components, including display, it seemed it had _better_ battery life than the latest iPhones of the time. I believe the latest was the iPhone 6 at the time. Presumably OLED might have changed this?

It was the iPhone 6s that came out in the fall of 2015 before the SE's release in spring of 2016. The battery life was better to the 6s and 6s Plus, depending on the task. But, the 6s Plus beat it in quite a few tasks (by a lot), such as standby time, talk time, and audio playback.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by brycehamrick »

temuze wrote: post #9

Mostly, I hope they bring TouchID back, preferably via a scanner on the back of the phone. Outside of providing a bigger screen, FaceID is strictly worse: - When I pulled my old iPhone out of my pocket, I would have my finger on the scanner and it would be unlocked before it reached my face. With FaceID on the iPhone X, I have to wait a few seconds. - If you wake up and you're squinting as you look at your phone, Fac…

Potentially something they're working on for 2021 https://9to5mac.com/2019/08/05/iphone-face-id-touch-id/

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by Y-bar »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #14

Presumably Apple doesn't make a new SE because it would kill their margins. And it'd be hard for them to make the SE expensive because it would probably be thicker, with a cheaper screen, worse battery life and worse performance (because of battery & cooling). But I'm sure they could come up with some semi-plausible reason to make an "SE Pro" so they can keep those margins. How about owning the extra thickness and gi…

I’d pay iPhone 11 money for an SE2 with iPhone 8-equivalent hardware.

I’d pay iPhone pro money for an SE2 with iPhone XR or 11 hardware.

The SE to me is not a budget phone, it is a premium flagship and I am willing to pay for the feature of being small.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by ch_123 »

> Apple discontinued the iPhone SE at the tail end of 2018 and has stated that the next iOS update will not run on the old SE hardware.

Apple has in fact stated that iOS 13 will run on the SE:

https://www.apple.com/ie/ios/ios-13/

I believe the internals are approximately the same as the 6S, and I would expect that both will be supported for the same amount of time.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by ezequiel-garzon »

EDIT: Never mind, OP is right, I had this wrong. Thanks, 333c.

Apple discontinued the iPhone SE at the tail end of 2018

Actually it was on September 12, 2017, the day they announced the iPhone X [1], even if they had it on sale for a while early this year.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_SE

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by oplav »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #38

My SE will probably be my last iOS device. iOS used to be much better than competition, but I don't think that's the case now. I never liked big-ass phones, and in my opinion the best iPhone design was the iPhone4, this one was a real masterpiece. But I won't pay a premium for a phone I don't like, when my SE will no longer do its job, it will be replaced by a cheap Android device.

Do you use any other Apple products? I feel the same way about paying a premium for a phone I don't like, but iMessage is what is keeping me from switching (back) to Android.

My personal computer is a 2014 MacBook. My work computer is a MacBook. Being able to message freely from my laptop to others on iMessage is a really nice feature.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by [deleted] »

flyinglizard wrote: post #36
temuze wrote: post #9

Mostly, I hope they bring TouchID back, preferably via a scanner on the back of the phone. Outside of providing a bigger screen, FaceID is strictly worse: - When I pulled my old iPhone out of my pocket, I would have my finger on the scanner and it would be unlocked before it reached my face. With FaceID on the iPhone X, I have to wait a few seconds. - If you wake up and you're squinting as you look at your phone, Fac…

But if you're in a pool with your family and want to take a photo, TouchID isn't going to work. And if you've been running and sweating and want to unlock your phone, many times it won't work. And if you're riding your bike in the woods and want to unlock it - right, gloves...

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Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by akhilcacharya »

flyinglizard wrote: post #36
temuze wrote: post #9

Mostly, I hope they bring TouchID back, preferably via a scanner on the back of the phone. Outside of providing a bigger screen, FaceID is strictly worse: - When I pulled my old iPhone out of my pocket, I would have my finger on the scanner and it would be unlocked before it reached my face. With FaceID on the iPhone X, I have to wait a few seconds. - If you wake up and you're squinting as you look at your phone, Fac…

But if you're in a pool with your family and want to take a photo, TouchID isn't going to work. And if you've been running and sweating and want to unlock your phone, many times it won't work. And if you're riding your bike in the woods and want to unlock it - right, gloves...

You can take a photo without logging in just by swiping right

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by mythz »

I bought the SE for my kid ($149 on Amazon) as he was getting frustrated when using my old iPhone 4 which was slow and unresponsive. He absolutely loves it and I'm kind of jealous of how small, lightweight and portable it is vs my iPhone XS - definitely the best price/form factor for kids and can definitely see the appeal of smaller phones esp. if you don't spend a lot of time in using App's or browsing where the small screen real-estate hurts UX.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by huhtenberg »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #38

My SE will probably be my last iOS device. iOS used to be much better than competition, but I don't think that's the case now. I never liked big-ass phones, and in my opinion the best iPhone design was the iPhone4, this one was a real masterpiece. But I won't pay a premium for a phone I don't like, when my SE will no longer do its job, it will be replaced by a cheap Android device.

Amen on the masterpiece.

I'm precisely in the same boat, but what are the iOS alternatives? There are none. Wouldn't touch anything Android with a long pole, because it has Google attached to it. Windows phone is a joke (if it still exists)... and there's nothing else that's not a dumb phone, is there?

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