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Vinyl set to outsell CDs for first time since 1986

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Re: Vinyl set to outsell CDs for first time since 1986

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A CD, and a FLAC-rip for me, please. I'd pick it over vinyl or any digital stream any day.

Why bother with CD or FLAC? If you're not listening in analog, you're losing fidelity. That's simply the nature of digital.

I hope you’re /s

Re: Vinyl set to outsell CDs for first time since 1986

#53

By revenue, not by units sold. Still interesting, and not really surprising based on my anecdotal experience of artists I follow. Streaming audio is good enough for most sound systems commonly in use. Vinyl serves as a better collectible from a favorite artist for a few reasons. - more room for cover art - physical analog medium (superficial, but has value to some) - requires more care than CDs (proves the owner’s de…

I think the "good enough" phrase you used really touches on the reason vinyl still exists. Streaming is "good enough." But physical media is a different experience. It's more intimate. You can touch, feel, and examine the music and the packaging. Some bands (REM is one) even put Easter Eggs in their physical media that can't be reproduced by digital. Streaming is fine for when you want to fill your space with sound.…

> Physical media is for when you want to really enjoy the music.

Wow this is some condescending, pretentious nonsense. Also, every streaming service I've ever used is perfectly capable of playing an album in order.

Re: Vinyl set to outsell CDs for first time since 1986

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's a mix of aesthetics, nostalgia, and some elements of the experience. Vinyl albums have big. often interesting art. Browsing a collection of vinyl has an element of serendipity as well, who knows what you may and on. Additionally, the listening experience is different because it's hard to skip around, songs bleed into one another. It's a case of worse is better.

I think it's mostly nostalgia because if you listen to music a lot in album form you'll ruin them, if you have kids you'll ruin them, if you have friends you'll ruin them, if they're near a window you'll ruin them, your record player can ruin them, an earthquake can ruin them. This is a music format with moving, degrading parts. I think LPs are bad for our environment compared to digital. I don't need tens of kilogra…

I don't need tens of kilograms of plastic to enjoy music

What brand of computer, MP3 player, or phone are you using that isn't made of plastic and filled with minerals that come from strip mines and processed with chemicals like cyanide?

Re: Vinyl set to outsell CDs for first time since 1986

#55
post #49

As much as it pains me to say this, I think I'm a hipster. I put a lot of attention and care into my audio and vinyl setup, but now that you can find albums at Walmart, the hip factor has been sucked out of it like a vacuum. I've recently been downsizing, and this might be something that doesn't stay with me. I'll keep my signed albums, but maybe not the rest.

Admitting to hipsterism is the first step on the road to recovery. If you enjoy it, don’t throw it out just because it’s mainstream!

Re: Vinyl set to outsell CDs for first time since 1986

#56

By revenue, not by units sold. Still interesting, and not really surprising based on my anecdotal experience of artists I follow. Streaming audio is good enough for most sound systems commonly in use. Vinyl serves as a better collectible from a favorite artist for a few reasons. - more room for cover art - physical analog medium (superficial, but has value to some) - requires more care than CDs (proves the owner’s de…

I think the "good enough" phrase you used really touches on the reason vinyl still exists. Streaming is "good enough." But physical media is a different experience. It's more intimate. You can touch, feel, and examine the music and the packaging. Some bands (REM is one) even put Easter Eggs in their physical media that can't be reproduced by digital. Streaming is fine for when you want to fill your space with sound.…

SAGA: Goodbye / Once Upon A Time

...is another example.

Side note: That Genesis tune is amazing and I have not thought about it in years. I am off to have a listen.

Re: Vinyl set to outsell CDs for first time since 1986

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why bother with CD or FLAC? If you're not listening in analog, you're losing fidelity. That's simply the nature of digital.

I hope you’re /s

Partly. When I read his comment I remembered an argument some people had in HN a few months back where they were saying there's no point in listening to music in a car unless you had their particular brand and model of sound system because you don't get the full experience.

My thought at the time was that unless they have a string orchestra in the back seat, they're not getting the full experience.

I still maintain that a string orchestra in the back seat of my car will sound better than FLAC.

Re: Vinyl set to outsell CDs for first time since 1986

#59
post #49

As much as it pains me to say this, I think I'm a hipster. I put a lot of attention and care into my audio and vinyl setup, but now that you can find albums at Walmart, the hip factor has been sucked out of it like a vacuum. I've recently been downsizing, and this might be something that doesn't stay with me. I'll keep my signed albums, but maybe not the rest.

Don't worry. If the music you listen to is sold in vinyl format at a Walmart, then you're not hipster enough to call yourself a hipster. :P

Re: Vinyl set to outsell CDs for first time since 1986

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On the toxicity and environmental impact of vinyl records https://youtu.be/aZ2czFuIYmQ

Seems like the author of this video has gone silent after being asked for the references he used to make his claims.

There was a documentary years ago about the hazards of working in a vinyl chloride chemical plant along the lines of nerve damage and dissolving bones in the fingers.

No idea where to find it again, but I'm sure processes have improved considerably.

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