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Re: Android 10

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Post by JorgeGT »

pranau wrote: post #37

I wonder how many of the features advertised here will make it onto the Android 10 release of other OEMs. In Android 9 for example, the ability to select text via OCR in the recent apps screen was limited to only the Pixel devices for some strange reason even though all Android devices had access to that feature prior to the release of Google Assistant via the Google app. In a similar vein, Digital Wellbeing was offi…

Another one: Motorola removed Android's native SIP support for VOIP from the Moto Gs user interface.

Re: Android 10

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Post by izacus »

fooqux wrote: post #38
gowld wrote: post #31

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Does Smart Reply send your messages to Google?

No, it uses the app's API to do that. However, the push notification from GCM does come from google and is possibly read though.

IIRC Signal doesn't send message contents over GCM because of that - it just sends a ping that wakes the app to retrieve the data.

(The app of course also has a choice of encrypting the payload - it's free form after all.)

Re: Android 10

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Post by bhahn »

garysahota93 wrote: post #23

As a recent iOS user coming from Android, this almost makes me want to go back. I really do miss the Smart Reply and native Google Assistant features. But alas, iMessage pressure is real in my friend's group.

iMessage pressure is real for me too. I was considering switching to an iPhone for a while but found air message and have been using it for a few weeks. It doesn't have all the features of iMessage, but core messaging works pretty well and I haven't felt a need to switch to an iPhone.

https://airmessage.org/

Re: Android 10

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Post by izacus »

placatedmayhem wrote: post #46
bsamuels wrote: post #29

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as dumb as it sounds, nobody likes to be a green bubble

It's not just green bubbles. Tapbacks are awkward and pictures and videos don't send as reliably. With my "green bubble" friends, we usually use Telegram or Signal or Keybase instead. I'd love to see a standardized IM/Text protocol instead of 1000 fragmented platforms. I've got on the order of 10 chat apps on my phone right now, all used in different contexts.

> I'd love to see a standardized IM/Text protocol instead of 1000 fragmented platforms. I've got on the order of 10 chat apps on my phone right now, all used in different contexts.

Apple could easily open the protocol, but they won't. They also won't use any of the other ones so as long as you'll be using iOS, you'll be in the iMessage garden and everyone else will be in another garden.

Re: Android 10

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Post by mcpeepants »

fooqux wrote: post #38
gowld wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does Smart Reply send your messages to Google?

No, it uses the app's API to do that. However, the push notification from GCM does come from google and is possibly read though.

I believe there is an API for hooking into notification text prior to display, which allows the Signal app to decrypt the message. The Signal server doesn't have access to the plaintext message in order to send it in a GCM.

Re: Android 10

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Post by izacus »

siffland wrote: post #41
TwoNineA wrote: post #15

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Yes, and other Android phones probably never, except some current flagships who'll get it in 6+ months.

Looks groovy, but my 2 year old LG is stuck at Android 8 with Security updates stopped in January. I wish android hardware was better supported for the long haul. I would even go as far as saying i would pay yearly for android maintenance than to pitch my phone for a OS update. My phone has plenty of power....at least we have XDA forums.

So why not buy a phone that has guaranteed updates? Like a Pixel or one of the Android One series? That's how you vote with your wallet.

Android 10 will be deployed to 1st gen Pixels today too.

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