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A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

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Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

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The pentagram at the bottom left of the video is an instant deal-breaker for millions of regular folks... being aware of social sensitivities is a big part of being successful for projects that aim for broad adoption.

Not to mention her dress code. Completely mindless of her appearance. If you're going to talk in front of a crowd maybe look the part? If I were here boss I'd be pissed she's representing the company like that.

That talk was at CCCamp 2019. I'd say most attendees looked like that.

Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

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Excellent talk. I can't wait for this phone (Librem 5) to be available. Only wish the specs were slightly better (higher screen rez for ex). But the privacy and security features more than make up for that.

I can't see it working unless they support WhatsApp and friends. No network effect means it will die. Unfortunately.

The Librem 5 isn't designed for people who use WhatsApp. Signal and some other actually private messengers should work as they already have official Linux clients.

That said I currently don't plan on buying it, simply because right now I'm not heavily relying on the phone. It is however the first phone released in the last ~5 years that I'd call interesting and unique.

Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

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Excellent talk. I can't wait for this phone (Librem 5) to be available. Only wish the specs were slightly better (higher screen rez for ex). But the privacy and security features more than make up for that.

I can't see it working unless they support WhatsApp and friends. No network effect means it will die. Unfortunately.

To the average consumer it's slower, bigger and more expensive than the alternatives - I suspect that'd kill it even if it had WhatsApp. They seem very aware of both issues though. In the talk their CTO mentions that they see it being used alongside another device. She also mentions they are only making 10,000 units so mass adoption clearly isn't the target.

Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the star in the bottom corner was a Star of David instead of a pentagram and you said the exact same thing what do you think the response should be?

The same thing? If you want mass appeal you must appeal to the masses. Using loaded symbology is a good way to torch your hard work.

Clearly, this phone is not intended for mass appeal, so I don't think this is an issue :)

Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

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He is on mobile ^

Since this is an article about an Android phone, I realise giving an iOS solution for this may not be that helpful. For anyone using iOS, the Apple Shortcuts app has an action "Get Contents of URL". You can use this to make a shortcut to save the contents of any URL similar to using wget. I often find this useful, and highly recommend the Shortcuts app in general. It's not perfect, but helps add missing functionality…

In iOS 13, due to release next month, one will be able to simply tap-and-hold on a link, then choose to download the file. Safari on iOS will finally include a download manager just like the one on macOS.

Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

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post #40

The pentagram at the bottom left of the video is an instant deal-breaker for millions of regular folks... being aware of social sensitivities is a big part of being successful for projects that aim for broad adoption.

Not to mention her dress code. Completely mindless of her appearance. If you're going to talk in front of a crowd maybe look the part? If I were here boss I'd be pissed she's representing the company like that.

Honestly I find people more trustworthy if they don't feel the need to dress like Mr. Burns.

It's a tech talk, not a catwalk.

Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

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For many people, it's a Satanic symbol and thus they want nothing at all to do with it.

It's clearly not a satanic pentagram but apparently some sort of authors inside joke. Sure, it's based on it, but as you can see there's more elements added https://imgur.com/PxKw5Yw Throughout history five pointed star or its variations have been used in various cultures, ideologies etc. so I don't see it as a "deal breaker".

That's pretty hilarious, then again I'm not the masses. Still awesome though.

Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He is on mobile ^

Since this is an article about an Android phone, I realise giving an iOS solution for this may not be that helpful. For anyone using iOS, the Apple Shortcuts app has an action "Get Contents of URL". You can use this to make a shortcut to save the contents of any URL similar to using wget. I often find this useful, and highly recommend the Shortcuts app in general. It's not perfect, but helps add missing functionality…

It's actually an article about a GNU/Linux phone, not Android.

Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

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The pentagram at the bottom left of the video is an instant deal-breaker for millions of regular folks... being aware of social sensitivities is a big part of being successful for projects that aim for broad adoption.

As to why it became occult, one of my favourite versions is that phi was used for engineering and one of the easiest ways to get phi is to draw a pentagram, but this was a trade secret, so one of the first things you do when drawing plans for a new church is draw a pentagram, measure off phi, then erase it.

Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't see it working unless they support WhatsApp and friends. No network effect means it will die. Unfortunately.

If I can install Signal or use bridges in the Matrix client, I don't see that being a problem.

There’s a WhatsApp bridge?
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