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Amazon has proven unable or unwilling to effectively police third-party sellers

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Re: Amazon has proven unable or unwilling to effectively police third-party sellers

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I appreciate why the title was modified from the original, but the mistaken use of "it's" rather than "its" was introduced in the process and should be corrected.

Such requests can be emailed to hn@ycombinator.com

(I've done so.)

Re: Amazon has proven unable or unwilling to effectively police third-party sellers

#52
There will only be items of cheesy quality, super high profit margin and excellent marketing/SEO left on Amazon, coz that's how online marketplaces choose winners.

You may have noticed $BABA's high earnings numbers, the late stage leeching is powerful.

Customers may miss the good old days that they could go to real retailers to feel products in person and still have the power to make brands care what they want.

Re: Amazon has proven unable or unwilling to effectively police third-party sellers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a trivial way for native English speakers to learn this rule: replace ‘it’ with ‘his’, appropriately, adjust comma to suit. > Amazon has ceded control of hi’s site to a 3rd party... Obviously incorrect.

When does "hi's" ever look correct though?

That's the point!

Re: Amazon has proven unable or unwilling to effectively police third-party sellers

#54

Amazon has calculated they're not liable if they don't spend appropriate oversight. It's a type of fraud like tax evasion that they can legally commit, because all that will happen is in 5 - 10 years some government will spend three years suing them to change the contrived status quo that would see any retail shop shut down.

If people lose trust in Amazon that would undermine their entire business model. There is a very strong incentive for Amazon to police their market. Amazon does have a list of brands that third parties are not allowed to sell (because of counterfeit issues) -- only the authorized, prescribed retailer is allowed to sell it.

There are still blatant frauds that occur, though, that Amazon really has to answer for. There was the Atlantic story about the fake Canada Goose articles on Amazon-

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/01/count...

These products are still on Amazon! After all that publicity, they're still there.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=canada+goose

Which is a bit weird as Canada Goose is supposed to be a restricted brand.

Re: Amazon has proven unable or unwilling to effectively police third-party sellers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a trivial way for native English speakers to learn this rule: replace ‘it’ with ‘his’, appropriately, adjust comma to suit. > Amazon has ceded control of hi’s site to a 3rd party... Obviously incorrect.

> There’s a trivial way for native English speakers to learn this rule: replace ‘it’ with ‘his’, appropriately, adjust comma to suit. I prefer the handy jingle, "If it's supposed to be possessive, it's just i-t-s, if it's supposed to be a contraction it's i-t-apostrophe-s. Scalawag."

How did you type that message with boxing gloves on?

Re: Amazon has proven unable or unwilling to effectively police third-party sellers

#56
I bought a mechanical key tester (small matrix of keys) from Amazon UK and it got delivered from China. It took weeks to get to my country and I had to endure a completely different customs procedure. Importing from a EU country to another EU country is simplified while importing from China is subject to much more red tape. I am careful now to make sure the seller is not from China. Needless to say Amazon lost a lot of trust in my eyes.

If I wanted AliExpress I would have used it, but when I specifically ordered from Amazon UK I expected to have the merchandise come from inside EU. That was the whole point. The same product is listed in AliExpress much cheaper.

Re: Amazon has proven unable or unwilling to effectively police third-party sellers

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Amazon overall quality has droped in recent years. I use to buy from Amazon because I knew I was buying original brands and no chinese cheap copies. Well, that changed a lot. There are specific things that I still buy from Amazon but on most things there's almost no difference between they and Aliexpress. I can buy the same products from Aliexpress way cheaper and have them delivered in 2-3 days. Thankfully there are…

As a small niche retailer that makes and sells guitar straps in Nashville I couldn’t agree more. Our experiments selling on Amazon have only hurt us, but Prime is a huge time & shipping $$ saver for re-ordering supplies for our shop and even materials used to make our products. We’ve experimented with selling on a lot of different sites (Amazon, Etsy, Reverb, etc) and have found the best way to control the brand and customer experience is selling solely on our website https://originalfuzz.com. So we both rely on Amazon to run our business, while feel we’re actively doing harm to our brand when we sell our products there. We’re giving up revenue in the short term by not taking a multi-channel approach to sales, but we think it will pay dividends over the long term because we’re able to provide a consistent customer experience with each order.

Re: Amazon has proven unable or unwilling to effectively police third-party sellers

#58
Yikes:

> A Wall Street Journal investigation found 4,152 items for sale on Amazon.com Inc. ’s site that have been declared unsafe by federal agencies, are deceptively labeled or are banned by federal regulators—items that big-box retailers’ policies would bar from their shelves. Among those items, at least 2,000 listings for toys and medications lacked warnings about health risks to children.

> Of the 4,152 products the Journal identified, 46% were listed as shipping from Amazon warehouses.

This is a top-of-the-front-page, well-researched article in a leading newspaper -- it's the kind of coverage that destroys hard-earned reputations built over decades.

Shame on Amazon.

Re: Amazon has proven unable or unwilling to effectively police third-party sellers

#59

Been saying for a long time Amazon is a flee market. Many times it's my last choice now when shopping online.

Not only that but they have the willful bait and switch when it comes to shippng method. Pay for 2 day, but it defaults to 7, you have to manually select 2 day. I got burned by that, never again. Edit this was a couple of weeks before Christmas, so I figured it was a "seasonal" "feature".

I had about 150 orders last year and never saw this happen.

Re: Amazon has proven unable or unwilling to effectively police third-party sellers

#60

We used to buy from Amazon since it was a stamp of quality. I tried buying a usb-c cable for my mac mini, and it was terrible. So many brands and no way of knowing what to get. Today you might as well buy from Ebay. What online store exists today, where I can be guaranteed to buy quality things? Do they no longer exist?

I tend to go for StarTech now, look it up on https://www.startech.com and search for the part number on Ebay. So far I've not been disappointed.
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