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Creeping normality
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Re: Creeping normality
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh, there are still people who are indignant, or at least puzzled, that a poor person could possibly own such luxuries as a mobile phone or a flat screen TV.
I was amazed when seeing this in India. Until I learned that a phone plan with unlimited data costs the equivalent of $3 a month there. Suddenly it becomes like the best investment ever. Even if you have nothing else, you can still be connected to the internet and all it’s joys.
What ? The cheapest flat LCD TV plus cable service costs about 100 dollars. And the monthly subscription is about another 2 dollars. That's not enough to buy the cheapest smart phone.
People in India certainly can afford that. In fact many teenagers these days buy $250-300 (average) smart phones. Also keep in mind I am talking about rural India.
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#53This is SHIT.
No one in HN can be bothered re-writing it so it's not BS badly written anecdotal evidence?
It doesn't even seem to state what it actually is CORRECTLY.
Which I thought involved fluctuations .
"which states that when a phenomenon evolves very slowly, as a general trend, with important fluctuations from one year to the next, the fluctuations hide the trend and what is seen as normal is modified from one year to another."
But it's all made up anyway as far as I can see.
People get used to things, yep, we know that.
Define it more tightly and have some proper examples if you have something to add to what we all know.
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#54This is presented mainly in a negative context but from my experience almost all change happens this way. You slowly get used to it. I still remember when people were saying that a mobile phone was a luxury item normal people don't need or that they would never do online banking.
This is true also for social changes. Homosexuality, at least in my country, is an example. When I was a kid at school, 20-30 years ago, it was frowned upon and used as an insult. Now it's totally normal and no one except fringe extremists would use it as an insult. And as far as I know, there wasn't any Rosa Parks-like event that triggered the change (factually or symbolically), it just creeped in.
It’s the same in the US (assuming “my country” is elsewhere).
The triggering event is generally considered to be the Stonewall riots, which happened before I was born. Seems like a big event dislodged things, but then it took a long time for the change.
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#55This is presented mainly in a negative context but from my experience almost all change happens this way. You slowly get used to it. I still remember when people were saying that a mobile phone was a luxury item normal people don't need or that they would never do online banking.
Oh, there are still people who are indignant, or at least puzzled, that a poor person could possibly own such luxuries as a mobile phone or a flat screen TV.
Many people still associate mobile phones with a 1980's luxury status symbol and think poorer people are trying to encroach on their class bracket. After all, how does one let others know that one is rich, if simply everyone has mobile phones, big televisions and habitable accommodation?
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#56This is also why it's useful to hire new people once in a while and pay attention to what they think . A new, junior hire will note many of the same things as an expensive consultany. With the difference that people actually listen to the observations of the consultant , while they expect the junior dev to get used to things.
+9000
I'm "using" our interns for this. First task is to create a document where they're supposed to write down everything that seems odd, overly complicated or broken. Even though they're sometimes in their third semester only, this pretty much always brings up something that can be improved on the spot without refactoring a dozen components.
But also for all the things that were actually just a case of the intern being inexperienced or too naive it's great for them to go back to this document after three months and see how their understanding changed over time.
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#57I think the bulwark against it is a society being clear on what its moral axioms are. Like in the US, "all men are created equal", where we understand "men" to mean "people". There are certainly forces in the US that do not want to accept this as true, but the existence of the stated value and national identity helps to defend it. Same with the bill of rights. And on a personal level, identifying ones own values and…
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Re: Creeping normality
#58I think the bulwark against it is a society being clear on what its moral axioms are. Like in the US, "all men are created equal", where we understand "men" to mean "people". There are certainly forces in the US that do not want to accept this as true, but the existence of the stated value and national identity helps to defend it. Same with the bill of rights. And on a personal level, identifying ones own values and…
Smoking in the public places was just few decades ago, very common and it seemed like impossible to move. Now even thinking about going back is absurd idea. Today people defend 'basically harmless stuff like: 1. Force physical mutilation of children crazy reasons is OK if there is not much physical harm. Circumcision of boys is seen as OK in countries where it's common and normal. Others can see it as crazy cultural…
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is true also for social changes. Homosexuality, at least in my country, is an example. When I was a kid at school, 20-30 years ago, it was frowned upon and used as an insult. Now it's totally normal and no one except fringe extremists would use it as an insult. And as far as I know, there wasn't any Rosa Parks-like event that triggered the change (factually or symbolically), it just creeped in.
It’s the same in the US (assuming “my country” is elsewhere). The triggering event is generally considered to be the Stonewall riots, which happened before I was born. Seems like a big event dislodged things, but then it took a long time for the change.
It's not really fringe to be homophobic in the US though.
There's lots of people that are blatant about it, and then lots of people who know they are supposed to think something other than what they do think.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Smoking in the public places was just few decades ago, very common and it seemed like impossible to move. Now even thinking about going back is absurd idea. Today people defend 'basically harmless stuff like: 1. Force physical mutilation of children crazy reasons is OK if there is not much physical harm. Circumcision of boys is seen as OK in countries where it's common and normal. Others can see it as crazy cultural…
Driving cars in the city is the new smoking. Our grandkids will look at this time as barbaric.
Sharing your location with the state in real time all time seemed barbaric a decade ago while it will be normal for our kids.