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Hundreds of exposed Amazon cloud backups found leaking sensitive data

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Re: Hundreds of exposed Amazon cloud backups found leaking sensitive data

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I've been working almost exclusively in the AWS space for about 10 years now. Clients anywhere from tiny little three-person consultancies to Fortune 100. Commercial, govcloud, dozens of clients. Never once have I ever found a use case for making public EBS snapshots. Who on Earth is thinking that it is a good idea to take an EBS snapshot and make it public? Note, several of those engagements did involve multiple acc…

Aren’t public EBS snapshots the underlying mechanism for public AMIs? I’ve ran into complex permissions in a golden image deploy model where the same AMI is used across multiple accounts. There needs to be controls like S3 where you can explicitly block public data. AWS IAM kind of sucks.

I’m convinced the last few years of ramped up concern about AWS “blast radius” is an admission by AWS professionals that NOBODY gets IAM right.

Re: Hundreds of exposed Amazon cloud backups found leaking sensitive data

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The guy that produces that last line definitely wears a suit.

As much as I dislike the typical suit wearer, the industry as a whole would be much better if IT-people wouldn’t blame everything on them and just tell them you won’t do it. If you are a welder and you boss wants you to weld a gas tank that hasn’t been emptied you tell him that he has no idea what the thing he asks for means, explain why and wait till the gas tank is emptied and everything is checked. I worked as a C…

>If engineers would build bridges like we in IT operate, we would have many collapses a day.

Maybe a bit offtopic at this point, but whay you said reminded me of this: https://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks

Re: Hundreds of exposed Amazon cloud backups found leaking sensitive data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The guy that produces that last line definitely wears a suit.

As much as I dislike the typical suit wearer, the industry as a whole would be much better if IT-people wouldn’t blame everything on them and just tell them you won’t do it. If you are a welder and you boss wants you to weld a gas tank that hasn’t been emptied you tell him that he has no idea what the thing he asks for means, explain why and wait till the gas tank is emptied and everything is checked. I worked as a C…

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Re: Hundreds of exposed Amazon cloud backups found leaking sensitive data

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I've been working almost exclusively in the AWS space for about 10 years now. Clients anywhere from tiny little three-person consultancies to Fortune 100. Commercial, govcloud, dozens of clients. Never once have I ever found a use case for making public EBS snapshots. Who on Earth is thinking that it is a good idea to take an EBS snapshot and make it public? Note, several of those engagements did involve multiple acc…

Laziness in attempting to share data with someone in another org? "Nope, can't access it" ... "Nope, still can't access it"... "My manager is harassing me to get access now"... "Look, just make it public then change it back after I get it copied"...

Yeah, that's pretty believable. Guess some places have a laxer culture and no automated scans checking for things like that.

Re: Hundreds of exposed Amazon cloud backups found leaking sensitive data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Laziness in attempting to share data with someone in another org? "Nope, can't access it" ... "Nope, still can't access it"... "My manager is harassing me to get access now"... "Look, just make it public then change it back after I get it copied"...

Yeah, that's pretty believable. Guess some places have a laxer culture and no automated scans checking for things like that.

most places

Re: Hundreds of exposed Amazon cloud backups found leaking sensitive data

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I just checked an EC2 console and I can see 19,356 snapshots created by other users. I am so confused. It would be trivial to make finding a snapshot require knowing a unique ID like an AMI. And, why do I need to be able to search for 1000s of customers' public snapshots in the EC2 console? What conceivable purpose does that serve except being a giant opsec fail?

That’s per region, too.

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How much do you think they'd pay to get to torture small animals? I had a boss who brought up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mask_of_Sanity and organizational sociopaths about twice a month. He must have been doing a better job of shielding us from his bosses than I thought, or I've had more crazy bosses than I thought, because a lot of it seemed like normal bureaucratic pathology to me, if a little more intense t…

There's only one known remedy and it costs 15 cents, so that mask is precious. It's a special gift to be able to see these things clearly, but it comes at the cost of close acquaintance, and you'll always be more watchful than the innocent of mind. It's grimly amusing how common and relevant psychological aberrance is relative to the average person's perception of it (cf. downvotes). It's tiring and unpleasant to exa…

This is a rather cryptic comment.

Are you saying there's some sort of group or club where you pay 15 cents for a mask and then put it on to get well-acquainted to psycologically aberrant individuals from a comfortable distance before they go prison?

Re: Hundreds of exposed Amazon cloud backups found leaking sensitive data

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I just checked an EC2 console and I can see 19,356 snapshots created by other users. I am so confused. It would be trivial to make finding a snapshot require knowing a unique ID like an AMI. And, why do I need to be able to search for 1000s of customers' public snapshots in the EC2 console? What conceivable purpose does that serve except being a giant opsec fail?

looks like some bigger images were of wiki[pedia|media] backups so I guess easy-to-find/use public data?

Re: Hundreds of exposed Amazon cloud backups found leaking sensitive data

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I had a simple glance in the console and there are like 20,000 exposed ebs snapshots - available for anyone to copy and examine - I think that's only for a single region too - switch regions to see more. Amazon should make an emergency decision to make all these private. Sure it will break stuff but I'd be disappointed if Amazon left what is in effect a security hole open for the sake of backwards compatibility. They…

non-region console links should redirect OK if you're signed in - https://console.aws.amazon.com/ec2/v2/home#Snapshots:visibil...
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