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Re: New bill would ban autoplay videos and endless scrolling

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Things like requiring accept and decline checkboxes to be the same font seem somewhat reasonable, even if I disagree with it, but banning autoplay videos and endless scrolling is insane. There are legitimate uses for autoplay videos (ex. Netflix playing next episode, YouTube playing next song when you are listening to music) which I personally use all the time and appreciate, and endless scrolling is great when you d…

I’m torn about endless scrolling. I wholeheartedly agree with a ban on auto playing sound or video. It’s gratingly irritating. It’s rather anti-human, experience wise.

But autoplay do you mean sounds and videos that autoplay when you go on a website, or sounds and videos which are automatically queued up after something you are already watching? Because I agree that the first is very irritating (there is nothing that I hate more than Netflix autoplaying previews with sound), but I find queuing up the next video very useful.

Re: New bill would ban autoplay videos and endless scrolling

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This seems silly of course, but you can't have companies such as Google and Facebook claim they are a carrier while they promote and curate content, even if they are only curating via AI (which turns out at to be really smart at connecting people to extreme content). It's like the phone company putting up an ad to suggest your child call a pedophile and then saying we're not responsible for the call, we're just the phone company.

Re: New bill would ban autoplay videos and endless scrolling

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree that it's hard to support legislation that's likely to have a lot of unintended consequences, it's also important to realize what's driving folks to introduce a bill like this. It's also worth pointing out that (in particular with Netflix) your example is its own counter-argument. You can't turn off autoplay, and that's the opposite of letting me make choices for myself. There's also plenty of other exa…

I think the choice is to just leave Netflix when you are done an episode. Maybe it's just me but I've never felt like the autoplay makes me much more likely to keep watching, it is just convenient so I don't have to go through all of the menus again. If we ban autoplay on Netflix, we should also ban cable I suppose (not a big loss, really), since cable will autoplay indefinitely.

I find autoplay on Netflix highly inconvenient. Disable it and you can continue to watch the next episode with just one button press. There is no need for navigating around. Also super useful when you happen to fall asleep in front of the TV so that it doesn't keep pumping all the way through the night. Autoplay on Netflix is IMHO a dark pattern to feed on attention and FOMO.

Re: New bill would ban autoplay videos and endless scrolling

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I hate web 3.0 features like this, more so for CPU than psychological reasons, but this is textbook useless government overreach; it's the web equivalent of those firearm bills than ban some auxiliary features that looks scary but are functionally irrelevant

Re: New bill would ban autoplay videos and endless scrolling

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An app I worked on had a similar feature to Snapstreaks, but it was used to help people quit smoking. This bill would have killed this feature that helped many people lead healthier lives.

This bill would only apply to social media sites, so unless your 'quit smoking' app was such, it woulnd't have affected it at all.

Re: New bill would ban autoplay videos and endless scrolling

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If politicians could focus their efforts on actually solving problems instead of giving hand outs to their tort lawyer buddies, we might get a better system. The lawsuits would include: - autoplay of gifs vs web videos - does Pinterest count as an auto scroll ad - does an endless scroll populated with 50% real content count as non-ad? The law will just create more headaches for the producers and less innovation thank…

Outlawing X doesn't mean almost-X is completely fine. That said, none of your examples make much sense (to me).

> - autoplay of gifs vs web videos

Presumably the content is what matters, not the particular compression format. Does it show animated content continuously without being triggered by active user interaction? Yes, so it's an auto-playing video.

> - does Pinterest count as an auto scroll ad

It's primarily focused on a call to action, so yes, it's an ad. Would they show an equivalent popup for ordinary user-generated content that they have no stake in?

> - does an endless scroll populated with 50% real content count as non-ad?

Is there an ad that appears when the user scrolls? I don't even see what this example was supposed to demonstrate.

> The law will just create more headaches for the producers and less innovation thanks to having to fight lawsuits.

More headaches and less innovation in how to sell bullshit sounds like a very positive outcome to me.

Re: New bill would ban autoplay videos and endless scrolling

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Things like requiring accept and decline checkboxes to be the same font seem somewhat reasonable, even if I disagree with it, but banning autoplay videos and endless scrolling is insane. There are legitimate uses for autoplay videos (ex. Netflix playing next episode, YouTube playing next song when you are listening to music) which I personally use all the time and appreciate, and endless scrolling is great when you d…

While I agree that it's hard to support legislation that's likely to have a lot of unintended consequences, it's also important to realize what's driving folks to introduce a bill like this. It's also worth pointing out that (in particular with Netflix) your example is its own counter-argument. You can't turn off autoplay, and that's the opposite of letting me make choices for myself. There's also plenty of other exa…

> You can't turn off autoplay

I'm pretty sure you can turn it off for all devices from desktop Netflix's settings.

I somehow don't have autoplay enabled when I watch any series.

Re: New bill would ban autoplay videos and endless scrolling

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If this is something people want, why does it need a legislative fix? Couldn't we just implement a technical solution and let people choose whether to use it? Like a browser plugin that stops videos from automatically playing?

This could just as well be said about opiates. Human's are not very good at regulating ourselves, when we encounter artificial signals that would have meant success in an earlier time. Not to mention minors, who do not yet have the physical capacity to regulate themselves. Not to say I support this regulation, but there is something to be said for protecting us from our primal selves.
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