That's a good reminder that, given the slight deterioration of the USA strategic/diplomatic stability in the past few years, using any US-based services without a strictly non-US backup is like playing poker. And it happens we're a lot to play poker here.
ITAR has been in place for decades...
GitHub and Trade Controls
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#53This is just sad. I feel for all my open source developers in these countries. I feel for all my peers who I spent my undergrad with in Iran. These archaic laws need to be deleted. America needs to be shamed for making it so hard for people to gain skills in these countries. Companies need to be shamed for not challenging these laws.
Re: GitHub and Trade Controls
#54This is just sad. I feel for all my open source developers in these countries. I feel for all my peers who I spent my undergrad with in Iran. These archaic laws need to be deleted. America needs to be shamed for making it so hard for people to gain skills in these countries. Companies need to be shamed for not challenging these laws.
Shame should be directed at the sanctioned govts like that of Cuba that jail or kill people for political dissent. And shame on companies that help them. These regimes are unelected or sponsor terrorism, like Iran. They must not grow. It's a bad situation all around and there is no other peaceful alternative. Crippling these govts provides them with less resources to setup extreme surveillance grids and control, like…
Why is this even a point? Would you be happy if I took away your kids future by pointing out however many fucked up things your country has done?
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Shame should be directed at the sanctioned govts like that of Cuba that jail or kill people for political dissent. And shame on companies that help them. These regimes are unelected or sponsor terrorism, like Iran. They must not grow. It's a bad situation all around and there is no other peaceful alternative. Crippling these govts provides them with less resources to setup extreme surveillance grids and control, like…
How is this related to people being limited? Why is this even a point? Would you be happy if I took away your kids future by pointing out however many fucked up things your country has done?
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're trying to develop any technology which requires trade secrets or IP protection -> you should not be using a public SaaS.
But there's no reason quadcopter software should require trade secrets or IP protection. It could just as easily be open source, and yet it still sounds like the rules prohibit it.
In fact this was a drive for some of Cygnus' overseas offices: not to evade the law but to do development that could not be spoiled by accidentally exposing it to a person subject to export control laws. Stupidly, we could import that software into the States, but people there couldn't fix bugs in it, only file reports.
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#57These rules are so stupid and actually hurts no one but the poor individual developer, a few years ago I used to live in Syria before the events. I had to find 3rd party mirrors or VPNs for the stupidest shit... like Nvidia graphics driver, adobe flash player, Java runtime and silly stuff like that, some ISPs had public download pages where you can find these general utilities most of it was outdated but does the job…
Don't forget the old iTunes TOS.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is this related to people being limited? Why is this even a point? Would you be happy if I took away your kids future by pointing out however many fucked up things your country has done?
You could have made the same argument to not sanction any govt, like the Nationalist Socialists or Soviets.
The govt has billions of resources to bypass this.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
You could have made the same argument to not sanction any govt, like the Nationalist Socialists or Soviets.
This isn't sanctioning the govt. This is sanctioning people. The govt has billions of resources to bypass this.
For the average citizen of those countries, VPNs are either illegal or more expensive than their daily wage.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
You could have made the same argument to not sanction any govt, like the Nationalist Socialists or Soviets.
This isn't sanctioning the govt. This is sanctioning people. The govt has billions of resources to bypass this.