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Egyptian ‘bent’ pyramid dating back 4,600 years opens to public

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Re: Egyptian ‘bent’ pyramid dating back 4,600 years opens to public

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Post by keiferski »

richardw wrote: post #50
keiferski wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most Egyptologists do not think the pyramids were built by slave labor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Egypt

I didn't use the world slavery once, but I'll bite. They probably weren't entrepreneurs. None of that looks like a situation I'd want to have imposed on me. No individuals say "you know what I want to do today? Move rocks for zero economic use." I quote from your page: "Forms of forced labor and servitude are seen throughout all of ancient Egypt even though it wasn’t specifically declared as the well known term we ha…

I’m certainly not arguing that it was an enjoyable or desirable profession. I was simply responding to your “a lot of whippings” comment. It is a common falsehood on the internet that the pyramids were built with slave labor. They would be better described as peasants with no political power and few other options. This would also describe the overwhelming majority of the population until at least the renaissance.

There is a consensus among Egyptologists that the Great Pyramids were not built by slaves. Rather, it was peasants who built the pyramids during flooding, when they could not work in their lands.

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Post by [deleted] »

jammygit wrote: post #30
hi41 wrote: post #22

It is hard to comprehend a large timescale of four thousand six hundred years. I wonder how much of our current software would last that long.

Jaron Lanier made an observation in one of his books about how technology concepts tend to get locked in, and predicted that MIDI has shaped digital music so much that in 1000 years we might still be stuck with its conceptual foundations. (possibly You Are Not a Gadget, but could have been another)

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Re: Egyptian ‘bent’ pyramid dating back 4,600 years opens to public

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Post by Nition »

walrus01 wrote: post #26
hi41 wrote: post #22

It is hard to comprehend a large timescale of four thousand six hundred years. I wonder how much of our current software would last that long.

There's a well known science fiction novel where a "programmer-archaeologist" on an interstellar fleet digs into a bunch of nested hypervisors and software nobody has touched in thousands of years, to find things still running on the unix time epoch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Fire_Upon_the_Deep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Deepness_in_the_Sky

The best part of that was, being a space-faring civilization, the narrator muses that its starting point is probably based on the date when humans first left Earth to go to the moon!

Re: Egyptian ‘bent’ pyramid dating back 4,600 years opens to public

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Post by gingabriska »

richardw wrote: post #50
keiferski wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most Egyptologists do not think the pyramids were built by slave labor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Egypt

I didn't use the world slavery once, but I'll bite. They probably weren't entrepreneurs. None of that looks like a situation I'd want to have imposed on me. No individuals say "you know what I want to do today? Move rocks for zero economic use." I quote from your page: "Forms of forced labor and servitude are seen throughout all of ancient Egypt even though it wasn’t specifically declared as the well known term we ha…

I read somewhere they had a labor union (maybe not exactly but early day version of it) and once they ran out of makeup (Alovera based moisturizer) and they went on strike untill their supply of moisturizer was restored. They had to work in sun so I can understand why they'd do it.

I also read about analysis of their remains which brought out the fact that they were all well fed with plenty of meat and grains.

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Post by mattmanser »

WoodenChair wrote: post #46
mattmanser wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know, it's a bit like mass murders, we should expunge their murderous names from all records. Sod them and their misery inflicting monuments.

> I don't know, it's a bit like mass murders, we should expunge their murderous names from all records. Sod them and their misery inflicting monuments. "Those who don't know history, are doomed to repeat it." It's important to understand who (by our standards) bad people were, why they were bad, and what circumstances enabled them to be bad. If you erase them, you can't learn from them.

Doesn't mean we have to remember their names though, which is what they wanted.

Re: Egyptian ‘bent’ pyramid dating back 4,600 years opens to public

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Post by drdeadringer »

Nition wrote: post #54
walrus01 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a well known science fiction novel where a "programmer-archaeologist" on an interstellar fleet digs into a bunch of nested hypervisors and software nobody has touched in thousands of years, to find things still running on the unix time epoch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Fire_Upon_the_Deep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Deepness_in_the_Sky

The best part of that was, being a space-faring civilization, the narrator muses that its starting point is probably based on the date when humans first left Earth to go to the moon!

My second round of amusement and feeling impressed was that, after thousands of years, the guy was off by only 1 year.
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