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Re: Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1

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Post by noob_slayer »

jpitz wrote: post #21
danaur wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't follow comments like these, should people refrain from criticising giant companies because there are people working at them? I don't understand the purpose of this comment

The purpose of the comment, to me, is to remind folks to refrain from taking your frustration with a product or a company out on a person.

According to some US Code, person means company [0]; so, we should avoid taking frustrations out on companies altogether?

[0] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/7701

Re: Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1

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Post by estsauver »

danaur wrote: post #15
estsauver wrote: post #9

In a moment that's likely to be very, very frustrating for a large number of you that have businesses and customers that depend on G cloud, let's try to remember that somewhere there's an engineer or an SRE having a really hard day just trying to fix things. Please, be kind and decent to each other, especially when things are hard.

I don't follow comments like these, should people refrain from criticising giant companies because there are people working at them? I don't understand the purpose of this comment

My hope is that we can be kind and decent to other people even in moments of stress. Take two very different example comments:

"This is a frustrating outage for us, a huge part of the attraction in Google Cloud has been the premise that we get the underlying reliability of Google's infrastructure. If we'd known what the reliability of Google in practice this year would look like, we might have stayed with AWS."

and

"Why are the stupid SRE's at Google even paid such absurd numbers if they can't even go a whole month without multiple hours of downtime."

Criticizing companies is find, just please remember there are real people there.

"Kind and Decent" doesn't seem like a high bar. If "please be kind and decent" is too much of an ask, I pray we never work together.

Re: Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1

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Post by larkeith »

partiallypro wrote: post #11

It's been down for 4 hours and it's just now being posted on HN? Is it intermittent?

From another comment, original issue [1] was closed at 9:12, so looks like they got it back up for a bit over an hour before it went down again. Post-mortem will be interesting.

[1] https://status.cloud.google.com/incident/cloud-networking/19...

Re: Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1

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Post by Terretta »

aNoob7000 wrote: post #27
danaur wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't follow comments like these, should people refrain from criticising giant companies because there are people working at them? I don't understand the purpose of this comment

No, He's just talking about all the people running around right now trying to figure out what went wrong and how to fix it. Criticizing Google is fine, but sometimes, the best deployments to production can go wrong.

If there’s a different deployment that could have worked, then the one that did go wasn’t the “best”. Critique should be around the 5 whys the actual best wasn’t selected for.
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