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An Open Letter to Google and Apple: Stop Hindering Iranian Entrepreneurs

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Re: An Open Letter to Google and Apple: Stop Hindering Iranian Entrepreneurs

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So, racism now doesn't mean race ? Or does race includes nationality in your definition ?

Race includes nationality in any useful definition of racism, and has done for many many years. From 2010, written into UK law: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/section/9 > 9 Race > (1)Race includes— > (a)colour; > (b)nationality; > (c)ethnic or national origins. From 1976 (over 40 year ago), written into the previous UK law: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1976/74/enacted > 1 Racial discrimination […

See also Article 1 of the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination:

> In this Convention, the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.

Both "descent" and "national or ethnic origin" appear relevant here.

https://www.refworld.org/pdfid/3ae6b3940.pdf

Re: An Open Letter to Google and Apple: Stop Hindering Iranian Entrepreneurs

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That is straight up racism.

Regardless what you think of the tactics, the sanctions are an economic vise -- a negotiating tactic to leverage a position -- it has nothing to do with race.

A tactic that takes 80 million people as hostages. Just as a side note: you can not give back Iranian citizenship (if that would be possible most Iranians in the West I know would do it). This concept does not exist. So even if you are the most western, fully integrated European which happens to have some Iranian roots you are still treated in a racist way because those new sanctions are so totally all-encompassing that you get fully subjected to it even if no practical connection to Iran exists.

Re: An Open Letter to Google and Apple: Stop Hindering Iranian Entrepreneurs

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Calling Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps the "Iranian Entrepreneurs" is an interesting point of view. And thinking that you can somehow decouple IRGC from normal Iranians and continue normal relations with the country is naive at best.

Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps does any intention to publish something on Google and Apple platforms, on the contrary, they want to have their own platform. In other word, sanctions are aligned with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps

Re: An Open Letter to Google and Apple: Stop Hindering Iranian Entrepreneurs

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Please to all the posters, stick your head out of your butt for a sec, this Iran thing is not something related to just some poor dev unable to publish on their store, it is a world wide dumb reaction all started from the USA foreign agenda. I'll give you an example to highlight how f'd up is the situation, in Italy, country with a quite respectful relation with Iran, banks started kicking out clients (with a one mon…

This is really upsetting: it is exactly what happened elsewhere like 80 years ago: laws against people just because of their birth conditions.

Edit: and people abiding by them because “it is the law”...

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Sanctions only strengthen the regime, while economic prosperity strengthens the progressive people and weakens the regime. Both regimes desperately need an enemy to survive.

huge misconception. used to be true, until surveillance tech came along. overthrows never came from progressive people, who believe in peaceful ways, it came from the lowest people in society who no longer have anything to lose. overthrowing is an act of desperation, the last thing people will do, only when the situation is no longer bearable.

Regardless of surveillance tech a coup or putsch [1] is not [always] executed by the "lowest people" in society.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

Re: An Open Letter to Google and Apple: Stop Hindering Iranian Entrepreneurs

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I get it - Sanctions hurt people. They are blunt tools when we need more refined dialogue. It is putting the pain of conflict between our governments onto the people, and not driving change.

All these things are true. But this letter is written to the wrong people. This situation stems from a problem between our governments, and that is where it needs to be fixed. We have limited power to change this, but what power we do have is enacted by electing leaders who will work for a better solution. We get a chance to pick a US President again in just over a year.

Please, when the opportunities arise over the next 18 months, get out, get involved, and vote.

Re: An Open Letter to Google and Apple: Stop Hindering Iranian Entrepreneurs

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Please to all the posters, stick your head out of your butt for a sec, this Iran thing is not something related to just some poor dev unable to publish on their store, it is a world wide dumb reaction all started from the USA foreign agenda. I'll give you an example to highlight how f'd up is the situation, in Italy, country with a quite respectful relation with Iran, banks started kicking out clients (with a one mon…

It is targeting everyone. As an European I would love to visit Iran. Amazing country, some friends there, direct flights... But I would lose ESTA and would need to apply for a visa before visiting US.

I feel you, this friend of mine had the same thought one year ago, he then decided that it will be ok for him to not visit the US in the next ten years then he went to Iran and had a lovely time there, he was so overwhelmed by the iranians and didn't regret anything. One of the funniest thing he saw was this kid dancing with a donkey costume and blasting a trumpet (you know the annoying vuvuzela thing) in a mosquee, what a dangerous country.

Re: An Open Letter to Google and Apple: Stop Hindering Iranian Entrepreneurs

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The US is almost at war with Iran so I personally find the title quite silly. The iranian entrepreneurs may soon find themselves blasted by tomahawk missiles.

Tensions hadn't turned into war yet, of course, nobody can predict there would be actually any war or not, it seems close. But even if there's a war, there are innocent people on both sides. We can't ignore the lives of innocent people because of conflicts between politicians.
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