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Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by nashashmi »

nkozyra wrote: post #42
bad_user wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For passwords the browser's built in management is inferior to password managers. I use 1Password (most polished) and there's also Bitwarden (hosted, but open source) and others. And I use my password manager every day, so if there's a cost associated, it's worth it.

> For passwords the browser's built in management is inferior to password managers. Can you expound? After years of using various pw managers I found it being embedded in the browser very useful.

One type of incident I came across repeatedly was the browser would not recognize new password setup after password reset. Also found that 2fa systems were being confused for new password accounts.

I agree password managers like last pass fill this void quite nicely. But are not serviced to run on mobile without payment.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by CryptoBanker »

I switched back to Chrome from Firefox. FF was slow, bloated, used all my RAM,no add on support (even for those add-ons who had an an FF product)

Mobile sites, especially HN just don't work properly on HF. The simple act of collapsing posts often seems to overwhelm the browser on my Pixel.

Not to mention there's this bug where videos create notifications on FF Android, and these notifications keep your phone alive from the background, burning through an entire battery in 30 minutes.

OH, there's also the issue where mobile videos don't play in window, instead opening a new window to play... Highly annoying

Oh, and that thing where FF videos often don't show a bar for your time if the video is playing vertically

And maybe this is just my brain, but FF doesn't seem to detect the back button too well, necessitating many double clicks

Oh and the fact that it can't open Google maps links straight from the browser, yuu have to right click

So yeah, I've tried it and it's just not as good, not even close TBH

Re: Give Firefox a chance

#53

Post by jhasse »

tstrimple wrote: post #45
ZuLuuuuuu wrote: post #35

99% of "you should switch to Firefox" articles focus on the speed of the browser. I used Firefox since it was beta till Edge came out when everyone around me was asking "why are you not using Chrome?", and the thing is, I never had much problem with the speed or the crashes, so I never felt the need to switch to Chrome. Until WP died and I bought an Android phone. Then I switched to Chrome so that I get perfect synch…

> and Safari is not because of speed The main reason I stick to Safari on my Macbook is that I still get significantly better battery life from it than either Chrome or Firefox. Chrome has also switched to a UX breaking requirement to hold cmd+q to quit instead of just tapping it. I'm sure I could configure it back to what literally every single other app on my Mac uses, but it's incredibly annoying that they think t…

> I'm sure I could configure it back [...]

It's literally one click in the "Chrome" menu.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

#54

Post by Majestic121 »

nkozyra wrote: post #42
bad_user wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For passwords the browser's built in management is inferior to password managers. I use 1Password (most polished) and there's also Bitwarden (hosted, but open source) and others. And I use my password manager every day, so if there's a cost associated, it's worth it.

> For passwords the browser's built in management is inferior to password managers. Can you expound? After years of using various pw managers I found it being embedded in the browser very useful.

Not the parent, but for my own use case, I use password managers for things outside of the browser (office door code, steam, this kind of thing). It might be possible to enter those in the password manager of the browser, I never actually checked, but in any case that's why I use an out of browser password manager

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by jjoonathan »

nkozyra wrote: post #42
bad_user wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For passwords the browser's built in management is inferior to password managers. I use 1Password (most polished) and there's also Bitwarden (hosted, but open source) and others. And I use my password manager every day, so if there's a cost associated, it's worth it.

> For passwords the browser's built in management is inferior to password managers. Can you expound? After years of using various pw managers I found it being embedded in the browser very useful.

Having your passwords quickly available on every computer, every phone, every OS, and every browser is great. Browser-plugin + app password managers do all 4, while password managers provided by the OS or browser typically fail at one of those. They fail hard, too, by making it difficult to manually extract passwords when you need to. They also tend to lack features like password generation, note storage, etc. It's a completely different experience, really.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

#56

Post by p2detar »

CryptoBanker wrote: post #52

I switched back to Chrome from Firefox. FF was slow, bloated, used all my RAM,no add on support (even for those add-ons who had an an FF product) Mobile sites, especially HN just don't work properly on HF. The simple act of collapsing posts often seems to overwhelm the browser on my Pixel. Not to mention there's this bug where videos create notifications on FF Android, and these notifications keep your phone alive fr…

I tried using FF for a while on my MBP. I could hear the fans turning on after I open a 4th tab. What's up with that? I don't want to use Chrome, but FF seems so slow.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

#57

Post by ArmandGrillet »

petepete wrote: post #10

I switched back to Firefox from Chrome earlier this year, and the experience has been very positive. It performs well, feels snappy, the dev tools are on par with Chrome's and everything feels right. The only negatives are that container tabs are still taking a bit of getting used to (why can't I have a 'Work' window in which all the new tabs are 'Work' tabs by default?) and the initial migration of passwords was a b…

> why can't I have a 'Work' window in which all the new tabs are 'Work' tabs by default?

Same. I've tried Firefox last month and it is the only no-go I've no. With Firefox profiles being a thing, I wonder if a front-end to manage them like in Chrome is in development.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by nashashmi »

ancientgallery wrote: post #41

The adblock-related thing pushed me to Firefox, and I've been using it for about a month. The only problems I have are regarding PDF files: 1) Dark mode (via dark reader) won't work on PDFs. 2) The Print-to-file (Ctrl + P) save location defaults to "~/mozilla.pdf" and there seems to be no option in preferences to change this default (titles often are multi-word long and copy pasting is a huge pain. Chrome just picks…

I did the same. Pdfs are probably the easiest thing to switch. If you download a pdf reader, you can switch PDF renderer easily. Firefox supports browser plug in viewers where Chrome does not.

And Firefox was the first browser to use js to render PDF. A complete miracle really.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

#59

Post by Lazare »

I switched to Chrome from Firefox years ago because Chrome has a better UX (faster, snappier, cleaner UI). A couple years ago I tried to switch back to Firefox (right after the Quantum project landed, and Firefox was meant to be a lot faster), but found FF to still be bloated, slow, and painful to use.

A couple weeks ago I made another try to switch back to FF, and I have found the experience to be very pleasant this time; desktop FF on both Windows and MacOS are, for me, better than Chrome. I recommend others give Firefox a try.

(There are a few reasons why you might want to: Privacy, fighting mono-culture, recent decisions by Google to neuter ad blocking addons, a general aversion to the power of the largest tech companies, just chasing the latest and fastest browser, a fondness for novelty or contrarianism. Some of those reasons may resonate; others may not, but if any of them do, give it a shot!)

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by yladiz »

p2detar wrote: post #56
CryptoBanker wrote: post #52

I switched back to Chrome from Firefox. FF was slow, bloated, used all my RAM,no add on support (even for those add-ons who had an an FF product) Mobile sites, especially HN just don't work properly on HF. The simple act of collapsing posts often seems to overwhelm the browser on my Pixel. Not to mention there's this bug where videos create notifications on FF Android, and these notifications keep your phone alive fr…

I tried using FF for a while on my MBP. I could hear the fans turning on after I open a 4th tab. What's up with that? I don't want to use Chrome, but FF seems so slow.

How about Safari?
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