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Open Source Could Be a Casualty of the Trade War

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Re: Open Source Could Be a Casualty of the Trade War

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A contact at Foxconn just told me yesterday that Apple is genuinely serious about leaving China completely. Apparently, Mr. Trump summoned Mr. Cook last week, and extended an offer of a tax break and other "relocation packages" on the size "not seen in human history" if Apple moves to USA. Hearing things like that keeps reminding me that Taiwanese engineering fraternity is one of worlds best intelligence agencies :)

Feels like this should be taken with a big grain of salt. Presidents can’t extend tax breaks

President can characterize the transaction as something else and get the same result

Re: Open Source Could Be a Casualty of the Trade War

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“through powers granted via the “EAR” (Export Administration Regulation 15 CFR, subchapter C, parts 730-774), along with a sometimes surprisingly broad definition of what qualifies as export-controlled US technology.” Boom! I told people they might do that back in the crypto discussions. Custom crypto and high-assurance security are still munitions with only a few things re-classified such as mass-market, one-size-fi…

> The best route to that is to intentionally leave in memory safety bugs or a configuration that enables privilege escalation. Hackers find those all the time in all kinds of devices. They say, “Hey, they just made a common mistake.” Maybe it was there on purpose. We won’t know. By that logic everyone from Apple to Xerox could possibly be enabling computer espionage. You’d never be able to prove a bug wasn’t a delibe…

Well, you can't. Whether it was a mistake or sabotage only changes the timescale for exploitation of the bug.

Re: Open Source Could Be a Casualty of the Trade War

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The weakness of freedom of speech is it also allows freedom of lying. It's the cost of it. I think there could/should be an amendment to constitution that prevents government officials from consciously lying to people

The fact of whether an official "consciously lying to people" is extremely hard to know, because it is a measure of someone's status of mind in the past. The real world is much more complicated than what you could imagine.

Take Obama's: 'If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan' as an example. He repeated this message for many many times: https://www.politifact.com/obama-like-health-care-keep/

How do you objectively decide:

1) Is this statement true?

2) Did he lie about it?

Also, how do you handle "if there is something I should not know, do not tell me"?

Re: Open Source Could Be a Casualty of the Trade War

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Quite the opposite - it makes more and more companies to consider open source. RISC-V is all rage now, people turning their eyes to open source EDAs. I hope with the help of SymbiFlow[1], Chisel[2]/FIRRTL[3], and other similar tools the duopoly of Intel (Altera) and Xilinx will come to its end. There is also an interesting initiative[4] to make ASIC design as affordable (in terms of time, knowledge, and money) as possible. And using KiCad[5] for simple projects can help for small businesses.

[1] https://symbiflow.github.io/

[2] https://github.com/freechipsproject/chisel3

[3] https://github.com/freechipsproject/firrtl

[4] https://theopenroadproject.org/

[5] http://kicad-pcb.org/

Re: Open Source Could Be a Casualty of the Trade War

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And so is so much other US-produced or maintained hardware. Do we now ban outdated corporate websites which can be hacked and used to launch attacks on other servers? The Huawei ban is very clearly a political anti-China move, not one based on technical reasons.

Do you not understand the part about Huawei’s rampant, Chinese-style IP theft directly contributing to the poor security of its products?

I haven't ever seen any evidence of "rampant" IP theft by Huawei. Every time, it's the same one Cisco case that got settled 15 years ago, unsubstantiated claims about Nortel two decades ago, and T-Mobile's "Tappy" robot. This for a massive company with over $100 billion in revenue a year. If there were actually something to the characterization, you'd think there'd be more evidence. It's a bit like defining Google solely on the basis of Oracle's case and Apple's earlier claims of Android being an iOS clone.
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