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Just came to say I hate amp. If I want to go to a site I want that site not a google cache of it. It’s not a better experience. It just means another click to get to where I was going. Stop the madness Google kill amp.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone on HN defend AMP. We all hate it. It's a pox on the modern web.
I present to you AMP tech lead: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=cramforce
When AMP was introduced I assumed the actual content would be loaded from the canonical URL anyway. This whole in-between caching layer G introduced is very weird. Also, I think what AMP was pitted against--Facebook instant articles--no longer exists, or at least doesn't particularly matter (now that FB is several pivots beyond the whole 'newsfeed is full of articles' stage).
(Disclosure: I work at Google, not on AMP, and I'm only speaking for myself)
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It feels like a solution to a problem no one was having, and now it's breaking the internet for people who never asked to use it.
Reddit mobile is ridiculously slow in a browser. But they did it to themselves. i.reddit.com is fast as hell. m.reddit.com loads 100x the Javascript. Thus Amp fixes a probme they created bc reasons.
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Reddit plays it's own games. While they dropped the aggressive "Use app" nagging, they now frequently and purposefully (?) break back-navigation (eg. from individual posts to the subreddit) with the all too common "Oh snap. Something went wrong" and cutesy picture excuse for a dysfunctional site.
Reddit is fun now; start Tor, try to visit a soon-to-be-banned sub-reddit, enjoy Tor's tracking notifications not present on normal reddit sub-reddits. Looks like reddit is turning into one large honeypot.
When AMP was introduced I assumed the actual content would be loaded from the canonical URL anyway. This whole in-between caching layer G introduced is very weird. Also, I think what AMP was pitted against--Facebook instant articles--no longer exists, or at least doesn't particularly matter (now that FB is several pivots beyond the whole 'newsfeed is full of articles' stage).
One way to think of AMP is as a solution to "When people click on links from search the pages often load very slowly. Can we make this instant?" Any preloading based solution has to involve caching, because otherwise sites could learn that they had shown up in your search results without you having clicked on then. (Disclosure: I work at Google, not on AMP, and I'm only speaking for myself)
What if it's not a bug, but Google testing user response (assuming Google is not stupid so Hanlon's razor may not apply)
Not unreasonable, but then they would probably A/B test it rather than just break it for everyone. Although I guess they might be A/B testing and I’m just in the same group as OP.
When AMP was introduced I assumed the actual content would be loaded from the canonical URL anyway. This whole in-between caching layer G introduced is very weird. Also, I think what AMP was pitted against--Facebook instant articles--no longer exists, or at least doesn't particularly matter (now that FB is several pivots beyond the whole 'newsfeed is full of articles' stage).
One way to think of AMP is as a solution to "When people click on links from search the pages often load very slowly. Can we make this instant?" Any preloading based solution has to involve caching, because otherwise sites could learn that they had shown up in your search results without you having clicked on then. (Disclosure: I work at Google, not on AMP, and I'm only speaking for myself)
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What do they intend to replace them with?
As far as I know they have not proposed a replacement, only an intention to come up with one.
[0] https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-launches-portals-a-new-...
Just came to say I hate amp. If I want to go to a site I want that site not a google cache of it. It’s not a better experience. It just means another click to get to where I was going. Stop the madness Google kill amp.
I’ve been using DuckDuckGo for over a year now and it’s just painful.