Apple Attempted to Censor Critical Coverage of Its $1k Monitor Stand • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple Attempted to Censor Critical Coverage of Its $1k Monitor Stand

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Post by nikofeyn » Sat, Jun 08, 2019, 3:14 PM UTC

danielscrubs wrote: post #40

nikofeyn wrote: post #37

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> People are paying significant markup on Cars for BMW, Ferrari, Maserati, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, Bently. You could buy a Car from Toyota or Kia with Same Horsepower. The thing is they are NOT the same. They never was. this is kind of an interesting comment. especially since you mentioned bmw. with bmw, you literally are buying a brand. i know at least two motorcycle dealers that stopped carrying bmw because bmw…

1. my iPad air stopped after just two years of babied operation. - My Windows phone stopped getting software updates 6 months after I bought it, brand new. My Android tablet stopped charging after one and a half year. 2. macbook pro’s wifi card stopped. - I've had WiFi cards that never shipped drivers for the latest Windows OS, after just a year. 3. key failure - Valid, and pretty inexcusable by Apple 4. bluetooth ne…

all i can go off of is my own experience. i can’t think of any other consumer electronics that have just outright failed like my apple products have. it is significant. and no one else is claiming those other products are built better than everything else, which is part of my point. apple markets and hypes themselves like no other company, and people just end up repeating what apple says, where apple gives no data to back up their claims. they just state it as fact, and yet, in many people’s experience, apple products fail just as if not more often than other brands.

and you are missing the point as well that many of these issues on the apple products are long standing issues across multiple iterations of them. just search bluetooth audio not working on macbook pro’s (iPads and iPhones have been fine in my experience). it is specific to them. and again, i have never had a single issue with other bluetooth devices and audio. (there’s an interesting issue too with bluetooth headphones. for certain bluetooth headphones, mac os x will automatically open itunes upon connect, and there’s nothing you can do other than having to go through a convoluted process to basically rename itunes so that it doesn’t get launched. this isn’t “just works”. and again, pointing other issues with other brands is irrelevant because it is apple that is being claimed as robust and always working.)

and the branding thing is still not addressed. my lg v35 is every bit as good as my girlfriend’s and brother’s iPhone xs max and even has major features the iPhone doesn’t have, and yet, it was almost half the price. you can’t explain that any other way than people pay apple for the brand.

Re: Apple Attempted to Censor Critical Coverage of Its $1k Monitor Stand

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Post by boomboomsubban » Sat, Jun 08, 2019, 11:02 PM UTC

spectramax wrote: post #36

boomboomsubban wrote: post #27

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Leaving it motionless on your desk reduces the risk, but you're still one relatively minor mistake from a broken display. If you're unlucky enough to have that happen, Apple products cost much more to repair. Plus, all of the design related breaks mentioned in the article.

I still find it absolutely ridiculous and extremely unlikely, something that you shouldn’t have to account for. I can understand breaking an iPhone screen since you carry with you at all times. It is like comparing and shopping for a car based on whether it will accidentally catch fire. Unlikely and there more things to worry about than breaking your monitor screen.

It would still be possible for you to break your screen through one minor accident. If you rely on your computer, the possible emergency repair costs should be considered before purchase, even if it's unlikely.

Re: Apple Attempted to Censor Critical Coverage of Its $1k Monitor Stand

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Post by scarface74 » Sat, Jun 08, 2019, 11:39 PM UTC

boomboomsubban wrote: post #52

spectramax wrote: post #36

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I still find it absolutely ridiculous and extremely unlikely, something that you shouldn’t have to account for. I can understand breaking an iPhone screen since you carry with you at all times. It is like comparing and shopping for a car based on whether it will accidentally catch fire. Unlikely and there more things to worry about than breaking your monitor screen.

It would still be possible for you to break your screen through one minor accident. If you rely on your computer, the possible emergency repair costs should be considered before purchase, even if it's unlikely.

How many computer geeks don’t have at least one spare computer around? For me, all my development is cross platform. If push came to shove, I would setup a VM on AWS and use the Workspaces client for my iPad.

Of course if you’re doing iOS/Mac development the situation is different.

Re: Apple Attempted to Censor Critical Coverage of Its $1k Monitor Stand

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Post by danielscrubs » Sun, Jun 09, 2019, 8:29 AM UTC

nikofeyn wrote: post #51

danielscrubs wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. my iPad air stopped after just two years of babied operation. - My Windows phone stopped getting software updates 6 months after I bought it, brand new. My Android tablet stopped charging after one and a half year. 2. macbook pro’s wifi card stopped. - I've had WiFi cards that never shipped drivers for the latest Windows OS, after just a year. 3. key failure - Valid, and pretty inexcusable by Apple 4. bluetooth ne…

all i can go off of is my own experience. i can’t think of any other consumer electronics that have just outright failed like my apple products have. it is significant. and no one else is claiming those other products are built better than everything else, which is part of my point. apple markets and hypes themselves like no other company, and people just end up repeating what apple says, where apple gives no data to…

Apple themselves doesn't really compare themselves to PC manufacturers any longer, so that's probably by journalists being edgy as always.

My experience with PC:s and Bluetooth has been very different from yours. One time I even remember buying a Bluetooth dongle even though the motherboard had it built in, just to make it connect. But to be honest it more than a decade ago.

I'm actually in process of upgrading from iPhone SE to LG V30 or Xiaomi Mi, though I really don't like switching from Apples ecosystem especially now when they are getting even more privacy-focused. I can understand why the iPhone XR and the likes are so expensive from the spec-sheet, but I really don't need those specs (especially if you factor in non-linearity of pricing, so a 10% "better" camera might mean a 40% more expensive camera chip). LG V30 has a lot of cool features so it's still a massive upgrade for me. End-to-end screen, good battery life and wireless charging.

Re: Apple Attempted to Censor Critical Coverage of Its $1k Monitor Stand

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Post by wodenokoto » Sun, Jun 09, 2019, 11:50 PM UTC

hhanesand wrote: post #42

wodenokoto wrote: post #41

Is it really ridiculously priced though? As if such a price is unheard of. A bang & olufsen TV starts at around $1000, and can easily be $2000. I think it is pricy but not when compared to the kind of things apple likes to compare themselves with. Their watch is expensive, but not compared with a Rolex.

But that’s a ~TV~... a screen etc Here it’s $1000 for two slabs of metal and a hinge...

Something got lost in editing on my phone. B&O stand starts at $1000.

Sorry.