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Since you quoted a rule out of context I'd like to provide the full version for ironic effect: > Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it. Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. That last sentence would seem to imply you've broken the rules yourself simply by commenting about another user doing so... Which ironically I'm also now guilty…
sctb is a mod. It kind of makes sense that mods are allowed to comment on people breaking rules.
No, Night Owls Aren’t Doomed to Die Early
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Re: No, Night Owls Aren’t Doomed to Die Early
#52You know, back in Mexico, we had school in two shifts, rite? It was a morning shift & afternoon shift. It was a way to fix the problem of "too many students and not enough time". I always took the afternoons. It was great. Life made sense. I wonder if we can ever pressure the bosses to make overlapping shifts? Or is that even possible? A 6-hour workday sounds like an opium dream to me at this point in our timeline.
We don't have set hours at our office and about half the people come in early around 8-10am and the other half come in around 1pm. There's enough overlap for afternoon meetings and plenty of time when the office is quieter because half as many people are there.
Re: No, Night Owls Aren’t Doomed to Die Early
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
> instead of users submitting a paywalled version of the article they could instead reference one that seems to not have this issue People often do this when the site is known to have an impenetrable paywall, e.g., WSJ. But the NYT's paywall is quite easy to bypass. It usually only appears if you've accessed more than the monthly limit's worth of articles, and after that you can just use a clean browser instance. Bea…
> People often do this when the site is known to have an impenetrable paywall, e.g., WSJ. Not in my recent experience, which was my reason for this comment > But the NYT's paywall is quite easy to bypass. As I said before, why force cures on an issue instead of simply acting on preventative measures in the first instance? More to the point, how would someone bypass this if they used an app for HN? There's no "private…
The article posted on HN should be the best generally-accessible article on that topic, end of story. In this case, if the Forbes article is better, that's the one that should be here. If the NYT version is better, that's the one that should be here. If they're about on par with one another, then the first one to be posted and upvoted should remain, as nobody would want a norm in which the moderators unilaterally change a submission to a different source from what was originally submitted and upvoted by the community.
If it has a paywall, the only question is, is there a workaround that would allow anyone to access it. In the case of the NYT, the answer seems to be yes; you just need a browser instance that hasn't exceeded the NYT's monthly limit. I haven't heard anyone ever say it's impossible for them to access NYT content. Just sometimes inconvenient, if you need to open a different browser window. For me, if I'm on mobile, that might mean switching from my usual Chrome instance to Safari or Firefox. But I've never found a case where I can't access it. It's a little inconvenient, but it's OK. Other people have different standards of convenience. E.g., some people disable all Javascript and get annoyed that a site won't render for them. So you can never meet everyone's standards.
I totally understand that you're well-intentioned and are wanting to find a solution that is best for the broader HN community.
But please understand that those of us who have been on HN a long time (12 years in my case) have seen this topic thrashed out repeatedly (sometimes multiple times per week). We've all discussed an thought about it enough that we understand that the policy the HN mods have arrived at and written into the guidelines is a variant of the old adage: the worst form of government, except for all the others.
Other policies would lead to scenarios in which there are arguments amongst the community and mods over whether an arguably-slightly-less-good-but-non-paywalled version should be favored over an arguably-slightly-better-but-weakly-paywalled version. Or alternately, any sites with paywalls, even porous ones like NYT, should be banned altogether. None of these outcomes are clearly better than the one we have.
I know imperfect solutions are hard to stomach sometimes!
Re: No, Night Owls Aren’t Doomed to Die Early
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
We don't have set hours at our office and about half the people come in early around 8-10am and the other half come in around 1pm. There's enough overlap for afternoon meetings and plenty of time when the office is quieter because half as many people are there.
Can you please clarify? Is it like that in your company or is it the case with all of your country?