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Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by buildzr »

zimbatm wrote: post #11

Firefox 67 also the first browser that ships with `prefers-color-scheme` (aka dark mode) after Safari. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/pref... And it does the right thing and disables the feature when enabling the resist fingerprinting option. I did a small survey and only very few websites have developed a second dark theme: https://zimbatm.com/DarkMode

> I did a small survey and only very few websites have developed a second dark theme: https://zimbatm.com/DarkMode

Add YouTube to this list, it's got a pretty good dark theme that can be easily enabled now.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by stevekemp »

When I upgraded from 66.0.5 it created a new profile, rather than keeping my existing passwords/histories/extensions.

I'm not going to use firefox sync, so it seems like there will be a painful migration ahead.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by jmiskovic »

copperx wrote: post #28
ncmncm wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dark mode, for the first time ever, has legitimate, objective reasons to want, now that we have pure LED displays: a black LED pixel consumes no energy.

You must mean OLED. And no, there are almost no desktop OLED monitors in the wild.

"LED display" term is commonly used for LCD displays where backlight is also actively controlled to increase dynamic range.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by kalleboo »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #38
mbrubeck wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In both private and not-private windows, the browser asks the user whether to save each password. Nothing is saved unless you explicitly click the Save button.

Ok, but I think the parent is wondering in what situation you'd want to store in the browser details of a site you'd visited, but still use private mode to "hide" that you'd visited? What data does the password use retain? IIRC password store retains the "time first used, time last used" and displays that visibly. In short what's the use-case or user story that fits this feature?

If I want to browse a site without it cluttering up my auto complete history.

Say you want to order an engagement ring for your girlfriend but don't want WEDDING RINGS R US showing up when you type "r" in the address bar

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by ncmncm »

noisem4ker wrote: post #33
ncmncm wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dark mode, for the first time ever, has legitimate, objective reasons to want, now that we have pure LED displays: a black LED pixel consumes no energy.

That was also the case with CRT displays. If a pixel is to stay black, no electron must be emitted to light up its phosphor. This Google search frontend has been around long enough to claim it helped save considerable amount of energy on that principle: http://www.blackle.com/about/ What they report about LEDs and CCFL isn't entirely correct, however. It may become in the future. Technicalities aside, what once could…

CRTs consume so much power that the beam current is negligible. The comparison is with backlit LCD screens, which have to have the backlight on regardless of how many black pixels you have.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by simongr3dal »

buildzr wrote: post #51
zimbatm wrote: post #11

Firefox 67 also the first browser that ships with `prefers-color-scheme` (aka dark mode) after Safari. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/pref... And it does the right thing and disables the feature when enabling the resist fingerprinting option. I did a small survey and only very few websites have developed a second dark theme: https://zimbatm.com/DarkMode

> I did a small survey and only very few websites have developed a second dark theme: https://zimbatm.com/DarkMode Add YouTube to this list, it's got a pretty good dark theme that can be easily enabled now.

They have a dark mode but it’s activated with a toggle in the interface, and not with the prefers-color-scheme media query.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by ncmncm »

copperx wrote: post #28
ncmncm wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dark mode, for the first time ever, has legitimate, objective reasons to want, now that we have pure LED displays: a black LED pixel consumes no energy.

You must mean OLED. And no, there are almost no desktop OLED monitors in the wild.

They are not uncommon on laptops, and quite common on phones. And, I have a couple on my desk at the office.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by darkpuma »

mbrubeck wrote: post #44
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, but I think the parent is wondering in what situation you'd want to store in the browser details of a site you'd visited, but still use private mode to "hide" that you'd visited? What data does the password use retain? IIRC password store retains the "time first used, time last used" and displays that visibly. In short what's the use-case or user story that fits this feature?

I sometimes use private browsing to temporarily access a site with a secondary account, without logging it if my main account.

Multi-Account Containers is good for that.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by riskable »

ncmncm wrote: post #27

Running Firefox under Qubes has become increasingly frustrating, as tabs crash whenever (apparently?) they try to use WebGL, or anything that depends on access to a GPU. More and more, Firefox seems to depend on GPU access (or something?) and fails hard when it's not there.

To be fair, that sounds like a bug in the graphics driver or OpenGL ICD/libraries. GPUs are a bit special in that they have the power to hose your entire running OS (force a reboot due to a hard hang) no matter what OS you're running. It's just the nature of GPUs and how their drivers work... With direct access to memory and allowing user space applications access to their hardware features.

In other words: Probably not Firefox's fault. The Firefox devs probably started adding support for accelerating more stuff via the GPU via OpenGL calls and if your driver has issues with any of those calls (e.g. bad application auto-detection) it can cause things to crash or have undefined behavior.

Not much the Firefox devs can do about it but report the bug anyway. At the very least they might be able to figure a workaround.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by markdog12 »

> We have seen great growth in the use of AV1 even in just a few months, with our latest figures showing that 11.8% of video playback in Firefox

Where are people playing AV1 videos?

YouTube released an AV1 playlist long ago, and haven't added a single video since release: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyqf6gJt7KuHBmeVzZteZ...

Besides that, I've only seen a few in the wild.

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