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At least your friends don't need a whole lot of instruction to join. Inserting pictures is pretty easy. And it's mobile.
Many irc channels are as easy to join as clicking a link. Webchat has gone a long way now.
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For tech groups there are a lot of good ones on matrix which is a federated network.
I second this. Matrix is a great protocol, with lots of promising clients [0] like Fractal, Spectral, Riot(X), Pattle, etc. and bridges pretty well with Slack, Discord, Gitter, IRC... It is self-hostable, and provides a modern baseline of features (though Riot is the only fully-featured client at the moment). Burying myself in a walled garden is a no-go, so it has been working pretty well for me so far. I only regret…
https://https://web.archive.org/web/20180711050333/https://m... (Why they removed this, and many of the other entries, from their FAQ? Who knows.)
https://secushare.org/comparison
…nor a fan of Federation in general:
https://about.psyc.eu/Federation
https://secushare.org/federation
Of course, the perceived need for federation only arises in the first place because the 'Inter'net doesn't actually deserve the name "Internet"—it's just three bead on a string telco networks in a Trenchcoat held together by thought-terminating clichés, of which you'll find plenty over here (and I don't exclude my comment there from that description):
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19864808
And a beads on a string model kinda forces one to enduldge otherwise mostly unnecessary middlemen.
Grrrrrrrr.
30 years later and we have reinvented IRC, but worse as you can't use your own client, the protocol may not be public and it's harder to discover channels.
At least your friends don't need a whole lot of instruction to join. Inserting pictures is pretty easy. And it's mobile.
I had that thought for months. I'll give you my business Idea for free for the next big social network, since I'd rather work on my game development: Chats based on hashtags. Are you watching the newest Game of Thrones ? Just search for #gameofthrones and enter the chat to talk with others. Chats go bad once too many people participate, so you split chats into channels of ~50. You can upvote messages and once they re…
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I remember IRC in the late 90s, early 2000s having A LOT (like 9 out of 10) of people who otherwise had no idea about computers (remember droves of people disconnecting after 'Press Alt+F4 to get @'?). People who didn't knew the difference between a file and a directory (or folder) were on IRC with channels having hundreds of people. If someone can figure out Facebook (and trust me, Facebook is far from intuitive for…
Your point about Facebook is spot on, if you have never used it before it's a nightmare
I had that thought for months. I'll give you my business Idea for free for the next big social network, since I'd rather work on my game development: Chats based on hashtags. Are you watching the newest Game of Thrones ? Just search for #gameofthrones and enter the chat to talk with others. Chats go bad once too many people participate, so you split chats into channels of ~50. You can upvote messages and once they re…
>Just search for #gameofthrones and enter the chat to talk with others. I invoke Poe's law: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2811#section-2.1 "Channels names are strings (beginning with a '&', '#', '+' or '!' character) of length up to fifty (50) characters. Channel names are case insensitive." Traditionally, people use channel names like #foobar. (if you wanna know what the other prefixes are for: & = local to server…
I didn't mean using IRC (although you might of course).
Wechat (from Tencent) has figured it out at least 5-6 years ago. Group chat inside wechat is everywhere in China now. People use it at works, for study groups, or SIGs.
Push to talk/listen is popular in china as well and its insanely irritating being around people shouting at their phones to reply.
I had that thought for months. I'll give you my business Idea for free for the next big social network, since I'd rather work on my game development: Chats based on hashtags. Are you watching the newest Game of Thrones ? Just search for #gameofthrones and enter the chat to talk with others. Chats go bad once too many people participate, so you split chats into channels of ~50. You can upvote messages and once they re…
I think Jodel is a little similar to this. There's hashtags, but it's location based. Living in a larger town, it's quite interesting to read and follow along with others nearby.
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You can use irccloud and you got irc on mobile, with easy picture integration and you don't miss messages when not online. (Like slack/discord).
HN has a very strange hate/love relationship with modern chat systems. Slack/Discord/whatever: they are proprietary, they are closed-source, they are bad. IRCCloud (which is proprietary, closed source etc.): oh, it's so good, use it.
> Slack/Discord/whatever: they are proprietary, they are closed-source, they are bad.
> IRCCloud (which is proprietary, closed source etc.): oh, it's so good, use it.
Who exactly is "HN"? How did you even decide "HN" has opinion X or Y?
I'm fine with Discord because its mostly used for gaming. Given the previous options (Ventrilo, TeamSpeak, Mumble, Skype), it is miles better. And of these, only Mumble is fully FOSS. A clear disadvantage is however privacy-related, but for gaming that isn't a huge issue.
What I'm not fine with is being forced to use Slack for work-related material. You don't want such sensitive data centralized. You want to host such yourself, or have the private keys yourself.
IRCCloud, whatever it is, probably does not have the same amount of users as the previously mentioned two. But if it uses the IRC protocol (which the name suggests), at least that is open and there's no vendor lock-in like with Slack/Discord. Which, given that Slack is used for commercial endeavors, is worse for Slack.
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You can use irccloud and you got irc on mobile, with easy picture integration and you don't miss messages when not online. (Like slack/discord).
HN has a very strange hate/love relationship with modern chat systems. Slack/Discord/whatever: they are proprietary, they are closed-source, they are bad. IRCCloud (which is proprietary, closed source etc.): oh, it's so good, use it.
You say "HN has a ..." but I use Discord for fun and have no problem with it.
There's no one type of person on HN. :)