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China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia

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Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia

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It's you. This kind of lazy pessimism strikes me as a peculiar privilege of people who've grown up accustomed to living under a government that, while unavoidably imperfect, does in fact give consideration to the rights and desires of ordinary citizens. They don't take notice of all the ways their government chooses not to oppress them, because they wrongly imagine this is some natural state of things. On the other h…

They don't take notice of all the ways their government chooses not to oppress them, because they wrongly imagine this is some natural state of things. If you're looking for a way to describe how good your government is and you come up with "Think how much worse it could be!" then I think the government has failed in its duty. There's a spectrum of government effectiveness that goes from "actively oppressing the peop…

I think the flaw in your argument is that you don't take the Overton window into account. Nobody is arguing about the existence of the scale of government effectiveness, but you're way more pessimistic than average in how you label the scale.

Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia

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You can download it - the index of human knowledge isn't that big that it wouldn't fit on a stick. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download#Of...

I am in China:-). That link is blocked.

You should be able to find a torrent file for whichever subset of wikipedia you need, which isn't too dated.

There's even something like this, that lets you browse via bittorrent: https://github.com/mafintosh/peerwiki

Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia

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You can download it - the index of human knowledge isn't that big that it wouldn't fit on a stick. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download#Of...

I am in China:-). That link is blocked.

Use this vpn: https://tunnelhero.com

Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia

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I am in China:-). That link is blocked.

You should be able to find a torrent file for whichever subset of wikipedia you need, which isn't too dated. There's even something like this, that lets you browse via bittorrent: https://github.com/mafintosh/peerwiki

Thank you!

Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia

#58

This makes me sad. Wikipedia is surely one of humanity's greatest accomplishments to date. Having such a resource be off limits to a large section of our population is truly depressing. Of course, there was always the language barrier, but zh.wikipedia.org could definitely have been as high quality as the English version given the chance.

Is zh.wikipedia.org not as high-quality as the English version in your experience? I don't use it that frequently, but for topics like famous Chinese people or linguistics of Sinitic languages, the English article is often just a stub, while the Chinese version has all the information I'm looking for.

Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia

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Does wikipedia have any read only mirrors?

There's an IPFS mirror of English Wikipedia[0], as well as several others[1], though not the Chinese one[2]. It's currently not a particularly up-to-date mirror, though (from late 2016).

[0] https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1m...

[1] https://github.com/ipfs/distributed-wikipedia-mirror/blob/ma...

[2] https://github.com/ipfs/distributed-wikipedia-mirror/issues/...

Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia

#60

A favorite quote of mine “The best way to build an authoritarian regime is not to indoctrinate someone but to convince them that there is no such things as truth”

I think with totalitarianism notions of truth are supposed to be subordinate to some 'higher' rational such as race or party allegiance.
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