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Re: Remote-Powered Developer Tools

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Post by selimthegrim » Mon, May 06, 2019, 4:31 PM UTC

pavanagrawal123 wrote: post #2

This might be a better link with more info (source): https://devblogs.microsoft.com/visualstudio/intelligent-prod...

Also previous discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19826027

Re: Remote-Powered Developer Tools

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Post by lostintangent » Mon, May 06, 2019, 4:31 PM UTC

holtalanm wrote: post #48

Just tried Live Share within VSCode the other day with a friend who lives in Hawaii -- It worked flawlessly after I worked around the issues signing in.

I’m sooo glad to hear that! Don’t hesitate to let us know how we can improve the product further, and also let us know if the direction we’re going resonates with you.

Re: Remote-Powered Developer Tools

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Post by jpincheira » Mon, May 06, 2019, 4:33 PM UTC

Remote work is here to stay, and love it when more companies and software products join in and start contributing to making it easier to work this way.

Re: Remote-Powered Developer Tools

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Post by lostintangent » Mon, May 06, 2019, 4:34 PM UTC

kgwxd wrote: post #3

Been using it every day at work for 4 years. Never even noticed the name change to "Azure DevOps". Has anyone here ever used an online IDE, for anything other than very small tasks?

We call Visual Studio Online a “companion” web editor, because we expect it to be mostly useful for quick tasks, or on-the-go access. We believe that the bulk of your work will still happen in an editor (which is why we’re building remote support in VS and VS Code), but a web-based client can be really convenient for things like quick edits, or Live Share sessions.

Re: Remote-Powered Developer Tools

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Post by burtonator » Mon, May 06, 2019, 4:35 PM UTC

Is this literally the same code that runs in the main Electron app just on the server?

I assume about 20% of it is going to have to be custom of course but still .. re-using a lot of the same code on the desktop is nice.

Re: Remote-Powered Developer Tools

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Post by lostintangent » Mon, May 06, 2019, 4:37 PM UTC

burtonator wrote: post #55

Is this literally the same code that runs in the main Electron app just on the server? I assume about 20% of it is going to have to be custom of course but still .. re-using a lot of the same code on the desktop is nice.

Yep! We want the experience between the web and desktop to feel cohesive and immediately familiar (not to mention extension interop). So it only made sense to share as much of the code as possible, to ensure we can provide the best developer experience!

Re: Remote-Powered Developer Tools

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Post by Titanous » Mon, May 06, 2019, 4:40 PM UTC

It's worth noting that the new VS Code Remote Development extensions are not open source, which means that it is impossible for the community to fix bugs, and add new platforms/environments/features, or see the code that's running in their environment without reverse engineering.

https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/faq#_why-arent-the...

Re: Remote-Powered Developer Tools

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Post by lostintangent » Mon, May 06, 2019, 4:41 PM UTC

jpincheira wrote: post #53

Remote work is here to stay, and love it when more companies and software products join in and start contributing to making it easier to work this way.

Better enabling remote work is one of our team’s primary points of focus. Between Live Share (https://aka.ms/vsls-why) and these new remote development capabilities, we hope that we can contribute to making things easier, productive and more enjoyable for everyone.

Re: Remote-Powered Developer Tools

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Post by lostintangent » Mon, May 06, 2019, 4:43 PM UTC

codingdave wrote: post #23

bobblywobbles wrote: post #8

What benefits does this provide to flat-out installing VSCode? I'm not seeing any here..

The article said that it wasn't intended to replace VS Code... it was more for quick edits or reviews, for example if you aren't on your main dev machine.

Yep that’s correct. We’re making the desktop clients remote-capable, and the providing the web editor as a “companion” experience. We want to enable devs to use the right tool for the right job.

Re: Remote-Powered Developer Tools

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Post by claimred » Mon, May 06, 2019, 4:43 PM UTC

lostintangent wrote: post #45

Hey all! I’m the author of this post, and lead the PM team at Microsoft behind IntelliCode, Live Share, and the cloud-based remote development capabilities described in this article. We’re looking forward to working with developers, and learning how to further support teams who are looking to up-level their productivity and embrace further workplace flexibility (yay for remote development!). In the meantime, feel fre…

Hey, great post, looking forward for seeing brand new VS! Would you mind sharing a little bit of tech approach for your real-time collaboration features? OT, CRDT or a hybrid transactional approach of sorts?

Currently we are developing realtime collaboration for a CAD system called Renga and information is a bit scarce.