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Tsinghua law professor who criticized Xi Jinping barred from leaving China

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Re: Tsinghua law professor who criticized Xi Jinping barred from leaving China

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can upvote every other story around it and then flag the original.

I think flagging just causes it to disappear altogether, though yes you could upvote every story except for it...

Something made the story drop nearly 30 places instantaneously. What exactly that was is unknown, but what we do know is that there exists some mechanism to move articles to a lower slot than their relative submission times and upvotes would normally place them.

Re: Tsinghua law professor who criticized Xi Jinping barred from leaving China

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Hi Inkstone, I once critized you because of your location. You set me straight then and are proving it again that somehow, non-censored news is possible there. I wish you the best of luck, I don't know if I would have as much balls as you guys. I can't seem to find a rss feed somewhere ( on mobile...)? Is that possible? Ps. Sorry for the previous comment a while ago. PS2. Using cloudflare. Looks legit to hide the ser…

You should apologize to alanwong, he's been trying to promote Jack Ma's site very very hard:

https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=alanwong

https://www.reddit.com/user/alanwong

Re: Tsinghua law professor who criticized Xi Jinping barred from leaving China

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If you're unaware, he was was suspended from his position and banned from leaving because he questioned making Xi leader for life. They are also scrubbing his name from the news and social media. Disappearing him is a very possible next step. Edit: dang I know you've said that vote/flag manipulation wasn't happening in the past when you've looked through the data. But could you provide some insight on why this droppe…

This.

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Re: Tsinghua law professor who criticized Xi Jinping barred from leaving China

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If you're unaware, he was was suspended from his position and banned from leaving because he questioned making Xi leader for life. They are also scrubbing his name from the news and social media. Disappearing him is a very possible next step. Edit: dang I know you've said that vote/flag manipulation wasn't happening in the past when you've looked through the data. But could you provide some insight on why this droppe…

Inkstone editor of the piece here. I just wanted to add that his essay touched on much more than just China's removal of presidential term limits. He also called for the abolition of special privileges for Communist Party officials, disclosure of Chinese leader's assets and a repudiation of the official verdict on the 1989 Tiananmen protests (the Communist Party considered it "counter-revolutionary" in legitimizing its military crackdown.) Writing about each one of these is enough to land you in trouble.

See what happened to Leica:

Leica censored on Chinese social media over Tank Man video

https://www.inkstonenews.com/politics/leica-camera-censored-...

And what happened to three activists who put derivative images of the "Tank Man" on liquor bottles to pay tribute to the nameless protester:

They put the Tank Man on booze bottles, and got punished

https://www.inkstonenews.com/politics/activists-who-put-tank...

Here's a link to a great translation of the Tsinghua professor's article. Imminent Fears, Immediate Hopes — A Beijing Jeremiad

http://chinaheritage.net/journal/imminent-fears-immediate-ho...

Re: Tsinghua law professor who criticized Xi Jinping barred from leaving China

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Hi Inkstone, I once critized you because of your location. You set me straight then and are proving it again that somehow, non-censored news is possible there. I wish you the best of luck, I don't know if I would have as much balls as you guys. I can't seem to find a rss feed somewhere ( on mobile...)? Is that possible? Ps. Sorry for the previous comment a while ago. PS2. Using cloudflare. Looks legit to hide the ser…

You should apologize to alanwong, he's been trying to promote Jack Ma's site very very hard: https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=alanwong https://www.reddit.com/user/alanwong

Thanks but no need to apologize to me!

You realize I'm an editor of Inkstone, right? I've been sharing stuff I think would interest people here and on other sites. I hope you find it as interesting as I do.

Re: Tsinghua law professor who criticized Xi Jinping barred from leaving China

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>But online, Xu himself has been virtually erased. >Searches for his name return no result on the Twitter-like Weibo. Any mention of him in the past year has been scrubbed from Baidu, a popular search engine. The speed that they can digitally make someone's name unusable is pretty scary. And this is just for being publicly critical.

Clinton in 2000 said:

> In the new century, liberty will spread by cell phone and cable modem. In the past year, the number of Internet addresses in China has more than quadrupled from 2 million to 9 million. This year, the number is expected to grow to over 20 million. When China joins the WTO, by 2005, it will eliminate tariffs on information technology products, making the tools of communication even cheaper, better, and more widely available. We know how much the Internet has changed America, and we are already an open society. Imagine how much it could change China.

> Now, there's no question China has been trying to crackdown on the Internet. Good luck! [Laughter] That's sort of like trying to nail Jello to the wall. [Laughter] But I would argue to you that their effort to do that just proves how real these changes are and how much they threaten the status quo. It's not an argument for slowing down the effort to bring China into the world; it's an argument for accelerating that effort. In the knowledge economy, economic innovation and political empowerment, whether anyone likes it or not, will inevitably go hand in hand.

Looks like China has mastered nailing jello to the wall.

Full transcript of his speech at Johns Hopkins: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/WCPD-2000-03-13/html/WCP...

Re: Tsinghua law professor who criticized Xi Jinping barred from leaving China

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>But online, Xu himself has been virtually erased. >Searches for his name return no result on the Twitter-like Weibo. Any mention of him in the past year has been scrubbed from Baidu, a popular search engine. The speed that they can digitally make someone's name unusable is pretty scary. And this is just for being publicly critical.

Clinton in 2000 said: > In the new century, liberty will spread by cell phone and cable modem. In the past year, the number of Internet addresses in China has more than quadrupled from 2 million to 9 million. This year, the number is expected to grow to over 20 million. When China joins the WTO, by 2005, it will eliminate tariffs on information technology products, making the tools of communication even cheaper, bett…

They did it with the help of US and European companies.
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