So: first attempt to get to the moon (by them, who are not quite USA or China) and they just fail at the very end. Like getting a silver medal at the Olympics. Yes, sad. But man!
With a population of < 3% of the USA, < 1% of China.
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
When is it not a terrible time to have an engine failure?
When you're floating along on a stable orbit not about to impact the surface. Or with more time to recover from the outage before landing. If it happens within the last minute (wild estimation) then you have little time to recover the lost velocity.
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#53It's time to retire the tired old nation-state space-race narrative. We're all in this together people. Their failure is our failure.
Agree to disagree here. The whole "we're all one people thing" is a great idea and all (I'm a huge fan, would love for the U.N. to be something other than the personification of national relations and instead be a real governing body) but that's not how things work. This is Israel's project. They had assistance from other organizations/countries, but they're not doing this to better North Korea in any real way and yo…
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you're floating along on a stable orbit not about to impact the surface. Or with more time to recover from the outage before landing. If it happens within the last minute (wild estimation) then you have little time to recover the lost velocity.
When you are floating along on a stable orbit the engines are off, so it's quite hard to have a failure in this context.
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#55Why did they not have live video of the landing attempt? Should be double shouldn't it? What was used in the 60s to broadcast the landing?
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe not a success this time, but a lot will be learned. These types of failures are now we learn, adapt, and move forward.
I doubt SpaceIL will be able to use anything they learned. IIUC they are out of money and can't move forward.
Regardless knowledge transfer isn't limited to either of those.
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#58So: first attempt to get to the moon (by them, who are not quite USA or China) and they just fail at the very end. Like getting a silver medal at the Olympics. Yes, sad. But man!
With a population of < 3% of the USA, < 1% of China.
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#59> On the way down, the main engine cut out. The engine was successfully restarted, but then communications were cut off, and no more information was sent back. Definitely a terrible time to have an engine failure :/
then communications were cut off, and no more information was sent back. Have any of these moon landings been done at night where people have been able to watch it happening through a telescope? Or are things so small at the moon's distance that there'd be nothing to see?
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#60It's time to retire the tired old nation-state space-race narrative. We're all in this together people. Their failure is our failure.
And we have a few examples of internationalism already like the ISS. And presumably any Mars mission will have to be international. Which is another one of the reasons such projects is worth while.