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Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by Myrmornis » Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 6:46 AM UTC

Despegar wrote: post #40

fastball wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't think Collateral Murder should've been released?

No I don't think an organization that was ostensibly trying "to publish fact-based stories without fear or favour" should have published the highly edited and misleading video which was packaged to go viral. That told me everything I needed to know about his intellectual honesty and what to expect from Wikileaks. I guess no one else had the same takeaway.

That video clearly showed disgusting and murderous behavior of US armed forces. They opened fire on and killed a passing motorist who stopped to help a wounded individual. Are you aware that that is what happens in the video?

It made it clear to the world that American armed forces could never be trusted to behave honorably in a very different country full of brown people that they think are “terrorists”.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by black-tea » Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 6:46 AM UTC

vixen99 wrote: post #46

wolco wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It shows how important dishonesty is in keeping the system alive and healthy. Without the lies the whole thing starts falling apart.

Which system do you have in mind and what's going to fall apart 'without the lies'?

I'll give you one example. France has recently made it illegal to do paternity testing. Someone clearly understands that without all the lies their population of single mothers would skyrocket.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by viraptor » Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 6:51 AM UTC

geowwy wrote: post #45

lsh wrote: post #41

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No, he really isn't. But he will almost definitely be extradited the moment he lives the embassy. It might be a refugee situation, fleeing the US in fear of his life, but he's from Australia..

His choice is either stay in the embassy or extradition to the US where he will face a very severe penalties, possibly the death sentence. Technically he's not being held against his will. But the reality is he can't leave.

> possibly the death sentence.

What? Is there any reasonable source claiming that's remotely possible?

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by jacobolus » Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 6:57 AM UTC

whamlastxmas wrote: post #34

idlewords wrote: post #24

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Consistent with many descriptions of what it was like to have Assange on one's sofa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le3jrp6LzjI

Someone let him sleep on their couch and then was upset he didn't move over when they passively used body language to suggest they wanted to sit there. The very concept that this is notable at all amongst the severity of everything else around this situation makes it pretty obvious to me it's just a smear. The dude is a slob so fuck em, let him rot in solitary for 30 years

If you’re going to live permanently as an un-paying guest in someone else’s building (in this case, the Ecuadorian embassy in London), it’s not a smart idea to be such “a slob” that your hosts are just waiting for an excuse to get rid of you and stop dealing with your bullshit.

Similarly, if you are a miserable guest when staying temporarily at a string of friends’ houses, you won’t keep having friends for very long.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by wurst_case » Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 6:58 AM UTC

sgt wrote: post #48

sschueller wrote: post #44

Free Manning, free Assange and free Snowden. These 3 individuals have shown the world the corruption and criminal activity our governments engage in and no matter how hard they try to silence them, eventually the truth will show through.

Free Ross Ulbricht as well. I feel more for him, to be honest. https://freeross.org

He was akin to a one man cartel, why shouldn't he be locked up? I'd guess there is a high risk he'd do it again if he had the chance. Unless you think it was OK because he was 26 years old and first time offender...

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 6:58 AM UTC

sgt wrote: post #48

sschueller wrote: post #44

Free Manning, free Assange and free Snowden. These 3 individuals have shown the world the corruption and criminal activity our governments engage in and no matter how hard they try to silence them, eventually the truth will show through.

Free Ross Ulbricht as well. I feel more for him, to be honest. https://freeross.org

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Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by invalidusernam3 » Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 7:00 AM UTC

wurst_case wrote: post #55

sgt wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Free Ross Ulbricht as well. I feel more for him, to be honest. https://freeross.org

He was akin to a one man cartel, why shouldn't he be locked up? I'd guess there is a high risk he'd do it again if he had the chance. Unless you think it was OK because he was 26 years old and first time offender...

He definitely should have been locked up, but a double life sentence plus forty years without the possibility of parole for selling drugs on the internet seems like overkill

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by wurst_case » Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 7:00 AM UTC

kzrdude wrote: post #47

sschueller wrote: post #44

Free Manning, free Assange and free Snowden. These 3 individuals have shown the world the corruption and criminal activity our governments engage in and no matter how hard they try to silence them, eventually the truth will show through.

Thanks for the reminder - Manning is currently not free https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/08/chelsea-mann...

Clearly Manning is the most simpathetic of all mistreated 'leakers'. Truly, what does anyone gain by having her locked up?

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by cm2187 » Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 7:06 AM UTC

clintonb wrote: post #5

> WikiLeaks cited the unidentified person as saying the planned expulsion is a response to the organization’s recent tweet linking to a website that alleged money laundering and corruption during Ecuadorian President Lenin Moreno’s time as United Nations special envoy for the disabled in Geneva. Foreign Minister Jose Valencia said last month that the government was “very surprised” by that and other actions by Assang…

I wonder if Ecuador didn’t see hosting him as a kind of insurance against being targeted by wikileaks.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by newnewpdro » Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 7:10 AM UTC

invalidusernam3 wrote: post #57

wurst_case wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was akin to a one man cartel, why shouldn't he be locked up? I'd guess there is a high risk he'd do it again if he had the chance. Unless you think it was OK because he was 26 years old and first time offender...

He definitely should have been locked up, but a double life sentence plus forty years without the possibility of parole for selling drugs on the internet seems like overkill

Sure, if "selling drugs on the internet" were his only crime.

I vaguely recall reading he (unsuccessfully) paid to assassinate people.

Edit:

Read it here https://www.wired.com/2015/04/silk-road-1/

  Later that day, DPR messaged Nob.

  DREAD: ok, so can you change the order to execute rather than torture?

  DREAD: he was on the inside for a while, and now that he’s been arrested, I’m afraid he’ll give up info.