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Why Don't Americans Understand How Poor Their Lives Are?

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Re: Why Don't Americans Understand How Poor Their Lives Are?

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>I planned on waking up early and revisiting said collection, but slept through my alarm, going from a planned 8 or so hours of sleep to almost 10.

This person and their DHH (dear honorary husband?) obviously don't have any kids. I'm starting to see where her idealized view of life in Europe is coming from. I've been to Europe many times and she is clearly living in some sort of upper class bubble. Why don't upper class Europeans understand how unrealistic their lives are?

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This is the blathering of spoiled rich kid on vacation. > In London, Paris, Berlin, I hop on the train, head to the cafe — it’s the afternoon, and nobody’s gotten to work until 9am, and even then, maybe not until 10 — order a carefully made coffee and a newly baked croissant, do some writing, pick up some fresh groceries, maybe a meal or two, head home — now it’s 6 or 7, and everyone else has already gone home around…

It's hilarious that the author is citing television. Is there anyone on the Earth who believes, e.g., British television is better as a whole than US television? They must really like slow-to-never-developing low budget, single camera angle crime dramas. [Edit: Apparently so! Quite the controversial statement. However, when voting, do consider what percentage of television consumed outside of the US was produced IN t…

I just know one person in my peer group who watches "classic" television.

Most people just switched to online on-demand streaming services.

Re: Why Don't Americans Understand How Poor Their Lives Are?

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I'd like to believe the hallmark of a truly great society is that they are capable of shamelessly copying good ideas from elsewhere. I'm not sure this idea of 'everything [in the US being] lower quality' is going to hold up to close inspection though. He cites life expectancy; that statistic is probably going to suffer from Simpson's Paradox - it is reasonable to expect that the better the poor and are treated, the l…

Is this not being hosted on a Linux box somewhere? Sure, it may well not be, but Linux is common enough that it could be.

I can claim that for the list if you want. Torvalds is American and lives in Oregon; most of the major Linux contributors were sponsored by American companies if I recall correctly. Red Hats and IBMs of the world.

America must be doing something right.

Re: Why Don't Americans Understand How Poor Their Lives Are?

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In a hyper-capitalistic society, money will be disproportionately allocated to the winners of whatever the society values at that time. And that disparity causes agony and longing for the have-nots, the hope for better conditions. Some rise, some don't. But it's a constant wrestling match of allocations. But the positive byproduct of disproportionate money allocation is innovation. That the Haves are able to accelera…

The "hard work pays off" delusion is woven into the identity of America, making it extremely difficult for the individual to shake off despite all evidence to the contrary. It's convenient for those who benefit from the hard work of others. They can expect hard work, without actually providing much incentive.

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> In London, Paris, Berlin, I hop on the train, head to the cafe — it’s the afternoon, and nobody’s gotten to work until 9am, and even then, maybe not until 10 — order a carefully made coffee and a newly baked croissant, do some writing, pick up some fresh groceries, maybe a meal or two, head home — now it’s 6 or 7, and everyone else has already gone home around 5 — and watch something interesting, maybe a documentar…

Why do you think those people write poetry instead of creating side project businesses?

It doesn't require capital. You can do it without involving other people. You don't need profit motivation. You can complete projects without the requirement that they produce enough income for you to survive off of. No deadlines. Less responsibilities. Quitting doesn't hurt other people. If you enjoy writing poetry you're also saving the money you would have spent paying for dopamine.

Edit: It's very difficult to move ideas towards better ideas if the only feedback is silent negativity. Was the question I responded to supposed to be rhetorical?

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One constant thing in every country is there is always a narrative among certain percentage of population about how shitty their country is, America is no different, usually the people who feel this way are not nationalists. If you immigrated to US from third world country you would know how amazing this country is. It always be your choice to live how happily you want to live, you can quit wanting to climb the ladde…

> If you immigrated to US from third world country you would know how amazing this country is. Yes, compared to the third world country you come from . But that works for pretty much any other western country. It doesn't help comparing them between each other.

Much the same as saying, “If you were unemployed and homeless, you’d know how amazing this job in an Amazon warehouse is.

Look at how many people would rather work here than starve!”

Very true. And yet, there are better jobs with better working conditions. This is not to say that the USA is the Amazon Warehouse of developed countries, but you need to compare jobs to jobs, and developed countries to developed countries.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's hilarious that the author is citing television. Is there anyone on the Earth who believes, e.g., British television is better as a whole than US television? They must really like slow-to-never-developing low budget, single camera angle crime dramas. [Edit: Apparently so! Quite the controversial statement. However, when voting, do consider what percentage of television consumed outside of the US was produced IN t…

The endless interruptions of adverts every 5 minutes does tend to encourage me that the experience of US television is worse. Some of the actual content is much better, but the experience of watching television in the US is drastically worse.

If you are seeing commercials, you are doing it wrong.

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This is the blathering of spoiled rich kid on vacation. > In London, Paris, Berlin, I hop on the train, head to the cafe — it’s the afternoon, and nobody’s gotten to work until 9am, and even then, maybe not until 10 — order a carefully made coffee and a newly baked croissant, do some writing, pick up some fresh groceries, maybe a meal or two, head home — now it’s 6 or 7, and everyone else has already gone home around…

It's hilarious that the author is citing television. Is there anyone on the Earth who believes, e.g., British television is better as a whole than US television? They must really like slow-to-never-developing low budget, single camera angle crime dramas. [Edit: Apparently so! Quite the controversial statement. However, when voting, do consider what percentage of television consumed outside of the US was produced IN t…

as a Brit who moved to the US, yeh, I love my VPN service so I can watch British TV, very few US programs I watch. And never ever live TV with the endless commercials

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> In London, Paris, Berlin, I hop on the train, head to the cafe — it’s the afternoon, and nobody’s gotten to work until 9am, and even then, maybe not until 10 — order a carefully made coffee and a newly baked croissant, do some writing, pick up some fresh groceries, maybe a meal or two, head home — now it’s 6 or 7, and everyone else has already gone home around 5 — and watch something interesting, maybe a documentar…

Another quote extracted from the text: "[T]he whole story of human progress has been written by lifting one another up, not [by] keeping anyone else down".
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