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Apple News Service Said to Feature WSJ for $10 a month, Without NYT or WP

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Re: Apple News Service Said to Feature WSJ for $10 a month, Without NYT or WP

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Post by tzs »

bArray wrote: post #43
ac29 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suppose "super cheap" is relative: WSJ: $100-$150/year WP: $187/year NYT: $195/year All of these seem to be promotional rates of some sort, or I lucked out and they're all on sale (unlikely). So, that puts them at or above the cost of a TV or Music streaming subscription. If you're subscribing to "a bunch", that's pretty expensive. edit: I should add, I believe all of these prices are a "with ads" price, which argu…

Those prices are ridiculous, especially in a time where we should be consuming news from a greater number of different resources, not a select few. I understand that journalists need to be paid, but this is well above and beyond - this is to feed the investors. I remember hearing that the majority/average person in the US doesn't have $400 spare for an emergency, how on earth are they expected to be able to consume "…

Many people who cannot afford a $400 due now emergency can afford $33 billed monthly for a year, even though it is very nearly the same total.

In fact, they can often afford a monthly bill where the total yearly cost is considerably more than they could afford up front.

Credit card companies make a lot of money off this difference.

Re: Apple News Service Said to Feature WSJ for $10 a month, Without NYT or WP

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Post by hhs »

steve19 wrote: post #5
tptacek wrote: post #3

Broken record: online newspaper subscriptions are super cheap and are remarkably useful; when you can click around a newspaper site without popups, it starts to makes sense to use them as your news portal, which quickly weans you off lower-quality free sites like CNN. Like the people that get the sleep apnea devices and won't shut up about how much better their life is, I'm constantly (and noisily) surprised by how s…

I think the problem is that some sites are charging for low quality click bait journalism. I am not going to pay for NYT or WP or the many magazines I used to subscribe to and dont anymore. I will pay for WsJ, The Economist and Bloomberg. Its when they want both seo/viral traffic AND my subscription dollars that annoys me.

That's been my observation too.

Something that might help: check your alumni programs, they may give access to subscriptions. Your public library may also have them; I was surprised at the amount of stuff offered online. I used to be a habitual paper subscriber of the New Yorker and the New York Review of Books but switched after I found libraries offering free e-access.

One paper that I'm happy paying for is the Financial Times (FT). They're worth it.

Re: Apple News Service Said to Feature WSJ for $10 a month, Without NYT or WP

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Post by joegahona »

crazygringo wrote: post #37

A 50% cut seems insane . Is there context that's missing here? Because also, nothing is said about how the subscription is divvied up. Is the remaining 50% ($5/mo.) split among publishers by the % of articles read?

It’s time spent with the publisher’s content.

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Post by joegahona »

bearcobra wrote: post #18

As a former Next Issue/Texture user I really hope they’re going to do a better job with the UX. I really loved the idea of an unlimited magazine subscription but the execution just wasn’t there.

Same. I _recently_ checked out Texture again, having tried Next Issue years ago, and I was shocked that the UX seemed to be exactly the same. No movement in years! Still takes ages to download a magazine, still incredibly clunky to navigate. The whole thing feels years behind everything else.

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Post by hedora »

throwawaymath wrote: post #41
StevePerkins wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worth noting that the Washington Post (owned by Jeff Bezos) only costs $100/year for Amazon Prime members, who also get the first six months free. Having said that, I tried it out and canceled before the six month trial expired. Personally, I just didn't find the quality to be THAT much higher than CNN. Just non-stop Trump ranting, more or less op-ed content on the front page section, etc. I've settled into a ha…

I can't speak for The Atlantic because I don't read it, but I wouldn't categorize The Economist as right-leaning. Its positions on various issues are too nuanced; I think it would be more accurate to decompose its views into economic and social issues. Then you end up with something that looks economically conservative and socially progressive. But even that sort of leaves out a lot of details that tend to get smooth…

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Re: Apple News Service Said to Feature WSJ for $10 a month, Without NYT or WP

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Post by 52-6F-62 »

ohnope wrote: post #7

>the most recent terms that Apple is offering to publishers ask for a cut of roughly half of the subscription revenue involved in the service 50% cut? And likely no access to customer data, with content embedded in a proprietary app outside of a news paper’s control... why would publishers agree to shutting off so many avenues for future innovation and strategic independence?

Apple News does provide analytics, just not user-profile derived data. It’s more general than that, but is available across categories like loyalty metrics, vague demographics, etc—without associating that information to specific users.

But you’ll have to investigate for yourself if you’d like to know more since I don’t work or speak for them and just have some personal experience.

Re: Apple News Service Said to Feature WSJ for $10 a month, Without NYT or WP

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Post by joegahona »

tptacek wrote: post #3

Broken record: online newspaper subscriptions are super cheap and are remarkably useful; when you can click around a newspaper site without popups, it starts to makes sense to use them as your news portal, which quickly weans you off lower-quality free sites like CNN. Like the people that get the sleep apnea devices and won't shut up about how much better their life is, I'm constantly (and noisily) surprised by how s…

Not all paywall sites remove popups, much less ads.

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Post by reaperducer »

untog wrote: post #6

I'm confused why WSJ, of all publications, is jumping on board here. A look at their subscription page shows me that the cheapest option is $15 a month. This Apple News subscription product is going to be $10 a month and Apple is taking 50% of that. I get the argument that Apple News will expose you to a much larger audience, but that level of revenue cut is... significant. Why wouldn't I cancel my WSJ subscription a…

Maybe they’re after people like me.

I like having all of my news in fewer apps rather than more. I’d subscribe to the Journal if it was part of Apple News, but as a stand-alone app, I’m not interested.

Similarly, I listen to as many of my favorite streaming radion stations through TuneIn as possible, rather than having a folder full of individual apps.

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Post by pvg »

ac29 wrote: post #36
tptacek wrote: post #3

Broken record: online newspaper subscriptions are super cheap and are remarkably useful; when you can click around a newspaper site without popups, it starts to makes sense to use them as your news portal, which quickly weans you off lower-quality free sites like CNN. Like the people that get the sleep apnea devices and won't shut up about how much better their life is, I'm constantly (and noisily) surprised by how s…

I suppose "super cheap" is relative: WSJ: $100-$150/year WP: $187/year NYT: $195/year All of these seem to be promotional rates of some sort, or I lucked out and they're all on sale (unlikely). So, that puts them at or above the cost of a TV or Music streaming subscription. If you're subscribing to "a bunch", that's pretty expensive. edit: I should add, I believe all of these prices are a "with ads" price, which argu…

I'm not sure where you are getting these prices, NYT's promotional pricing is $52 a year ($1/wk), WaPo is under $10/mo, less if you happen to have Amazon Prime.
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