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Re: Tesla – Introducing V3 Supercharging

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Post by freerobby »

cma wrote: post #28

The much bigger news is they completely walked back FSD (full self-driving) into something that you have to monitor at all times by changing the description on their website. The release of a proprietary charger is somehow completely overshadowing that news. It's changed from driving itself around in a ride hailing network to earn you money while you sleep, to now making you always be in the car and pay attention and…

I think you're confusing the next incremental step toward FSD with the end state of FSD. Tesla changes its marketing materials and web site copy all the time, but the Master Plan Pt 2 post (which outlines what you're alluding to) remains unchanged. Additionally, just three weeks ago, Elon was on the Ark Invest podcast claiming FSD will be safe enough for a human to sleep at the wheel by end of 2020[1]. I don't think Tesla's FSD plans have changed.

1: https://ark-invest.com/research/podcast/elon-musk-podcast

Re: Tesla – Introducing V3 Supercharging

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Post by Carioca »

Carioca wrote: post #42
dreamcompiler wrote: post #24

250KW. JFC! That's enough to power 100 average houses, all going into one car. I'm both impressed and slightly terrified.

Have you ever considered how much chemical energy is flowing through the gas pump when you fill up a car?

I got curious and did the math: US gas pumps do 10 gallons per minute, which give us 0.61 L/s. Density is about 0.7kg/L, energy content is about 46.7 MJ/kg. Multiplying the three we get juuust under 20MJ/s or 20MW or about 80 times more energy than this kind of electric charger

Re: Tesla – Introducing V3 Supercharging

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Post by scarlac »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #29
andrewmunsell wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have an i3 now and after my lease is up, I will absolutely either get a Model 3 or Y. There's just no other electric car comparable that will allow you to road-trip without worrying about charger access.

Is privacy an option yet?

You'd have to be more specific than that. You can disable data sharing if you prefer.

Re: Tesla – Introducing V3 Supercharging

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Post by grecy »

azhenley wrote: post #45
SnowingXIV wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you speak more to this? Similar situation. Interested in a Tesla but live in an apartment without a station but during winter have well below freezing and sub zero temps. Seems difficult.

I've gotten used to it and do just fine not being able to charge at home. I have chargers at my work but still choose to mostly use the nearby supercharger. When I would use the supercharger on cold mornings, it would charge at 0mph for 10-15 minutes and then slowly increase. The worst I saw was it stayed at a rate of 25mph for over an hour before I finally had to leave. However, using a regular wall socket has consi…

I just read a trip report of a couple that did a 4,600 mile road trip in their Model 3 in cold temps (between 0 and 7 F) and their trick was to always charge at the end of a day so the battery was warm.

Re: Tesla – Introducing V3 Supercharging

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Post by azhenley »

andrewmunsell wrote: post #21
yalogin wrote: post #19

The main info is missing in this PR release though. Is this a hardware upgrade or a software update? Looks like a hw upgrade, if so are they upgrading all their charging stations? Or did they already do it? How long is the upgrade going to take and how much will it cost?

It's a completely new hardware design with the power cabinets now using industrial inverters. The old v2 cabinet used a bunch of Model S inverters. The power posts (the white things with the cables on them) are the same as v2 externally, but not internally. They're not retrofitting stations, but all new stations (other than Urban Superchargers, which they will still install in urban locations) will be v3 hardware. Fo…

Don't forget the software aspect that warms the battery prior to you arriving at the supercharger. That provides half of the improvement, according to their bar chart.

Re: Tesla – Introducing V3 Supercharging

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Post by cma »

freerobby wrote: post #51
cma wrote: post #28

The much bigger news is they completely walked back FSD (full self-driving) into something that you have to monitor at all times by changing the description on their website. The release of a proprietary charger is somehow completely overshadowing that news. It's changed from driving itself around in a ride hailing network to earn you money while you sleep, to now making you always be in the car and pay attention and…

I think you're confusing the next incremental step toward FSD with the end state of FSD. Tesla changes its marketing materials and web site copy all the time, but the Master Plan Pt 2 post (which outlines what you're alluding to) remains unchanged. Additionally, just three weeks ago, Elon was on the Ark Invest podcast claiming FSD will be safe enough for a human to sleep at the wheel by end of 2020[1]. I don't think…

And four or five weeks ago Tesla had a filing about building more stores.

It seems a lot of plans are changing.

Elon claiming that in a podcast isn't a promise like this text on the order page.

Re: Tesla – Introducing V3 Supercharging

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Post by pbreit »

cma wrote: post #46
WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Link the change?

"Tesla updates self-driving language, creates confusion and walks back features" https://electrek.co/2019/03/06/tesla-self-driving-language-w... Old language: https://i1.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/201... New language: https://i1.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/201... All mention of the ride hailing service is gone, and now unsupervised driving isn't just dependent on just regulatory a…

Just taking out the car-sharing bit? Meh.

Re: Tesla – Introducing V3 Supercharging

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Post by burfog »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #24

250KW. JFC! That's enough to power 100 average houses, all going into one car. I'm both impressed and slightly terrified.

At 250 volts, it is only 1000 Amps. Normal houses come with 200 Amp service. Older ones may be 100 Amp, and larger modern ones are 400 Amp.

So that is about 5 houses. You could buy that service. I hope Tesla would sell you the supercharger for it.

Re: Tesla – Introducing V3 Supercharging

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Post by DuskStar »

xxpor wrote: post #50
DonHopkins wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't wait for the wireless charger that lives up to the name "Tesla".

People might find it slightly inconvenient when their keys get torn from their pants and watches ripped from their wrists every time they charge their car.

It's not really a Tesla until it rips out your pacemaker.
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