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Paychecks Exposed: Google, Apple, Facebook and More

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Re: Paychecks Exposed: Google, Apple, Facebook and More

#51
First time I've come across glassdoor.com -- clear your cookies else your "free trial" runs out.

At one small start-up company I worked at us developers/hackers eventually found an "encrypted" XLS document which contained all the salaries (this was when Excel "encryption" wasn't up to much). So we read everyone's salaries, from the management down. The interesting part was that certain people in management were taking home huge salaries, for not doing very much visible work. The company ripped off a lot of investors and was eventually sold for a tiny fraction (~1%) of the money which was put in. Which surprised no one on the inside.

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#52
Be careful of these numbers being biased lower than the real medians and averages.

Glassdoor's gimmick is "tell us your salary and we'll tell you what everyone told us." They'll keep bugging you as you use the site until you finally relent (or play cookie / session reset games).

I'm guessing that means most people who sign up are somewhat insecure about their salary level and want more information. The truly satisfied or highly paid folks either don't use the site much or only need to look at one page and leave satisfied that they are doing just fine.

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Missing from the list are Microsoft and Amazon. I wonder how they compare?

I suspect CNBC being partnered indirectly with MSFT had something to do with the MS omission. No sense is looking bad in your own media outlet. The CEO approval rating for MSFT was a dismal 50%.

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Is Facebook rated higher because it is the new cool kid in the neighborhood or because it is doing something different? After all, Google was considered the best place to work less than 5 years ago.

Google went crazy with hiring in 2006 and relaxed its standards, letting in a bunch of duds. There's a higher chance at Google that your manager is going to be a creep and your coworkers are going to be mouth breathers. Facebook is younger and smaller so does not face these issues (yet). If you do encounter a poser at Facebook, at least they are a cool, young , good looking poser, not a yucky beardo comp sci Phd pose…

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Re: Paychecks Exposed: Google, Apple, Facebook and More

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post #51

First time I've come across glassdoor.com -- clear your cookies else your "free trial" runs out. At one small start-up company I worked at us developers/hackers eventually found an "encrypted" XLS document which contained all the salaries (this was when Excel "encryption" wasn't up to much). So we read everyone's salaries, from the management down. The interesting part was that certain people in management were takin…

Do you think it's acceptable for you to have read the document, no matter how simple the encryption?

Re: Paychecks Exposed: Google, Apple, Facebook and More

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post #52

Be careful of these numbers being biased lower than the real medians and averages. Glassdoor's gimmick is "tell us your salary and we'll tell you what everyone told us." They'll keep bugging you as you use the site until you finally relent (or play cookie / session reset games). I'm guessing that means most people who sign up are somewhat insecure about their salary level and want more information. The truly satisfie…

I would guess the opposite. People who are comfortable in making more than average would be more willing to divulge, even anonymously.

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post #56
post #51

First time I've come across glassdoor.com -- clear your cookies else your "free trial" runs out. At one small start-up company I worked at us developers/hackers eventually found an "encrypted" XLS document which contained all the salaries (this was when Excel "encryption" wasn't up to much). So we read everyone's salaries, from the management down. The interesting part was that certain people in management were takin…

Do you think it's acceptable for you to have read the document, no matter how simple the encryption?

Sure, why not? I don't get this whole secrecy around salaries. If it was up to me everyone in the company would know what everyone else was earning.

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's just say I know enough Googlers who are currently fed up with the influx of subpar nooglers. It's not just one data point -- at least 4 of my googler friends complained about the new employees. They mention that Google stopped hiring around the economic crisis, and when the economy picked up again, they had to hire twice as fast to make up for the lost time and in doing so, they let in people who should have be…

please define subpar

I was asking to get an objective definition of a "subpar" noogler.

I'm about to be a recent college grad and I want to know what subpar is so I can spend my time now making sure that I am not that.

It's really frustrating to me when people say things like "Let's just say I know enough Googlers who are currently fed up with the influx of subpar nooglers." And I have no idea what they mean.

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