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Re: Web page service workers bypass ad-blockers after Chrome 72 upgrade?

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Post by dmortin » Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 5:55 AM UTC

reificator wrote: post #47

dmortin wrote: post #27

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Ad networks strive to filter these out, so it's not an argument against ads. Otherwise, you could say let's not use, for example, app stores, because sometimes malicious apps can get through the checks.

Having an extra layer of filtering is good, but time has shown it to be less effective than adblocking. Your app store example is a non-sequitur, because users want to download apps. Users in the general case do not specifically want ads.

> Users in the general case do not specifically want ads.

True, but users want to access content for free, they don't want to pay for every site they visit. And currently it's only possible with ads.

And most users rather bear ads than pay. If everyone uses an adblocker then most sites will either close or become paid.

Re: Web page service workers bypass ad-blockers after Chrome 72 upgrade?

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Post by JetSpiegel » Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 10:25 AM UTC

naniwaduni wrote: post #50

pdpht wrote: post #29

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I think Mozilla's privacy scandals are much worse than that screenshot service.

Google privacy scandals, meanwhile ... don't happen because look where our expectations went, huh.

Their very existence is a scandal.

Re: Web page service workers bypass ad-blockers after Chrome 72 upgrade?

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Post by fzzzy » Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 1:37 PM UTC

FridgeSeal wrote: post #42

fzzzy wrote: post #41

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They’ll just serve the ads from the same ip as the content then, or even embed it right in the same request as the content.

You’ll face kickback from ad agencies over that: the third party requests are also used by the agency to track that the impression/click/etc did actually occur and the publishers aren’t just lying about it to boost their numbers.

Hmm, that's interesting. Makes sense.

Re: Web page service workers bypass ad-blockers after Chrome 72 upgrade?

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Post by simcop2387 » Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 5:47 PM UTC

jsjohnst wrote: post #14

simcop2387 wrote: post #7

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Firefox's built in screenshot system provides one things that others don't. You can screenshot the entire page as a single unit, without having to resize the window beyond your own screen size.

Most plugins I’ve seen for doing screenshots provide that functionality. Admittedly I’ve not looked much, but any screenshot utility that can’t do that is pretty much useless to me, so maybe I’ve only looked at ones that had it.

That might be the case now (I haven't looked either), but back when this was introduced that wasn't the case.