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Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

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Kinda makes you wonder why all your development can't be 100% web-based. No messy installs, version control built in (autosave like gmail?)...if your deployed app is web-based, why not your entire development environment?

I haven't had my second cup of morning coffee yet, so I'm having trouble imagining how one would bootstrap that kind of thing.

Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

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Love it, but I can't shake the feeling that the people who I want to show this to would not dig the zombies vibe. Maybe I just hang around too many people who do Real Serious Business (TM) programming. :) It's neat as hell though.

And some people don't enjoy the CHUNKY BACON(!!!) vibe either, but it didn't stop _why from being awesome.

at least the chunky bacon vibe was original and creative. Now there's fucking zombies everywhere.

Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

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That's really a comment about your distro, not about Ruby or Rails. It /should/ be as simple as installing Ruby, then `gem install rails`. If it's not then something is broken with your distro's package.

mac osx, same amount of bullshit. its great when it works, sometimes it just doesnt and you have to do random shit to make it work.

Rails has been bundled with the developer tools for MacOSX since 10.5 - I admit that it was a bit annoying if you were compiling Ruby yourself in days prior.

Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

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mac osx, same amount of bullshit. its great when it works, sometimes it just doesnt and you have to do random shit to make it work.

Rails has been bundled with the developer tools for MacOSX since 10.5 - I admit that it was a bit annoying if you were compiling Ruby yourself in days prior.

Right - my issue was with the MySQL gem. The entire system is great because you can type

"gem install mysql" or whatever and it just works.

But the issue comes in when it doesn't work, which it didn't for me. It took hours of debugging. MAMP gets me up and running in < 5 minutes. A proper LAMP setup takes me < 10 minutes. I'm failing to see the advantage of Rails (at least from a setup standpoint) when it works perfectly most of the time, but fails so hard.

Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

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Kinda makes you wonder why all your development can't be 100% web-based. No messy installs, version control built in (autosave like gmail?)...if your deployed app is web-based, why not your entire development environment?

Didn't Heroku have something like this a while back?

Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

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What constitutes a full dev environment? - Some kind of database: easy - Editor: easy - Version control: easy I guess you have never tried to build LLVM on Windows if you think that's hard ;)

No for real, try to install SQLite/Spork/Autotest/Rspec. It isn't that easy when you are a noob who only want to start to learn how to dev. Personnaly I was so sick and tired to get everyday a new problem when I wanted to install a gem that I setup a VM with Ubuntu and I launch it when I want to dev. Ubuntu is "user friendly"-ier than Windos for ONE thing setup a dev environment. And as nobody dev on Rails under Wind…

I ran this on my parent's machine:

   gem install sqlite3-ruby autotest rspec
And it installed everything. That wasn't hard was it? Granted, I didn't test the gems.

The only problem is with spork: gem install spork gave me an error. I plugged it into Google which gave me the resolution: delete rake.gemspec and gem install rake (the one click ruby installer on windows seems to come with a bad rake), then gem install spork. All of this, including installing Ruby took like 5 minutes.

Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

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I just installed RoR on a clean Ubuntu install and it wasn't easy at all. First, I had to install rvm (Rails wouldn't install with Ubuntu's Ruby packages) which took some time to figure out. Then I tried installing Rails and got some problem related to sqlite3. I then figured out that I had to install the sqlite3-ruby gem. Of course it didn't work. I found out I had to install the libsqlite3-dev package. The whole pr…

It's probably a fluke on your setup. What package manager did you use that didn't work? Are you a Unix/Linux type of guy? Most people that aren't have hard time installing any *nix based development environment. I mean, you got an error telling you there was not sqlite3 and you tried the gem and no dice, it's pretty obvious what to do if you're familiar with any Linux. To be fair though, I believe there's no mention…

I've been working with Linux for many years (Ubuntu is my main desktop right now). Ubuntu's gem package simply isn't compatible with the latest version of Rails which means you have to install rvm and figure out lots of stuff.

Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

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Kinda makes you wonder why all your development can't be 100% web-based. No messy installs, version control built in (autosave like gmail?)...if your deployed app is web-based, why not your entire development environment?

Didn't Heroku have something like this a while back?

It was their original product, yes.
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