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Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by bhartzer »

sirn wrote: post #34

I'm not familiar with ICANN rules, but I wonder if a company can do whatever they want to a gTLD once it's accepted, even if it's not within the intended usage in the gTLD application? As far as I know, Google said they registered .dev for internal use and for Google-related products and it will be completely closed to Google, according to their application[1]: > The mission of this gTLD, .dev, is to provide a dedica…

I believe they can change their business plan. Even if they say it will be closed they could offer domains to the public.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by Izmaki »

have_faith wrote: post #17

> A domain just for developers > $11,500 for 9 days early access Makes video games early access look like childs play.

It's a nice way to earn a bit of cash from larger companies who do not want "company.dev" associated with porn or malicious content. Imagine if "unity.dev" or "disney.dev" pointed to a cesspool of viruses.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by fastball »

sascha_sl wrote: post #37
delinka wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if you have the technical savvy to be using .dev before the Google deployment, you have the technical savvy to install an additional root cert for use with Chrome.

What about internal use in organizations? Sorry but this is pure malice by Google. I can invert this argument by saying if you're buying a .dev domain you have the technical savvy to get on an HSTS preload list, except you haven't broken anyone's workflow. EDIT: And I mean... have you USED openssl's x509 toolchain? That's a few steps up from editing the hostsfile.

Editing the hosts file isn't a solution for internal use in organizations.

If it's just you, editing your hosts file, switch to .local or whatever. There was always a chance when using a "local" domain (which isn't actually some sort of standard) that such a TLD could be created in the future. If it's for an organization, create the root cert, and have that be one of the steps users need to take in order to access the dev site. Or just switch to .local or .test or .whatever.

I've been using .dev as a local test environment for years too, but I'd prefer to have more TLD options available and just switch to .local or .test because I'm not averse to change.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by bhartzer »

_wmd wrote: post #18

A domain just for developers! Until it abruptly shuts down Feb 19, 2021. Why would anyone trust Google with something with any kind of long-term requirements as important as a name? They should have registered ".chump" instead, because that is really what users of a Google-managed TLD are declaring "Dear VALUED developer, thanks so much for being a part of the .dev experiment! After a long hard period of staring at o…

Yeah, that won’t happen. Even if a registry goes out of business the domains and tlds will still resolve, most likely operated by another registry.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by sascha_sl »

sirn wrote: post #34

I'm not familiar with ICANN rules, but I wonder if a company can do whatever they want to a gTLD once it's accepted, even if it's not within the intended usage in the gTLD application? As far as I know, Google said they registered .dev for internal use and for Google-related products and it will be completely closed to Google, according to their application[1]: > The mission of this gTLD, .dev, is to provide a dedica…

That application is bullshit. Everything in Google's network already uses their pseudo-"goto" TLD.

I don't think they use any domains beyond the few used for the registry page either.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by wolco »

bhartzer wrote: post #33
ceejayoz wrote: post #20

I was already irritated that they took the .dev TLD. This sort of blatant money grab over it is simply gross. $8k premium to get in on the first day.

They didn’t take it. They applied, went through the process, and paid a premium for it. $8k for a domain is actually cheap compared to other premiums in other new gtlds.

It's really cheap. Much cheaper to buy the .com/.net version.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by bhartzer »

gkoberger wrote: post #43
_wmd wrote: post #18

A domain just for developers! Until it abruptly shuts down Feb 19, 2021. Why would anyone trust Google with something with any kind of long-term requirements as important as a name? They should have registered ".chump" instead, because that is really what users of a Google-managed TLD are declaring "Dear VALUED developer, thanks so much for being a part of the .dev experiment! After a long hard period of staring at o…

I mean, I get your point, but I think this is a meme exclusive to HN. Other than Google Reader, there really isn't much Google has shut down without having a newer, better product you can transition to. When it comes to something like this (AKA not a consumer product, makes money, relatively easy to run, etc), I genuinely can't see them shutting down a TLD like this. If anything, the complaint should be the lack of o…

Tlds generally won’t be shut down and can’t be shut down.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by gipp »

_wmd wrote: post #18

A domain just for developers! Until it abruptly shuts down Feb 19, 2021. Why would anyone trust Google with something with any kind of long-term requirements as important as a name? They should have registered ".chump" instead, because that is really what users of a Google-managed TLD are declaring "Dear VALUED developer, thanks so much for being a part of the .dev experiment! After a long hard period of staring at o…

Somebody makes this post on every HN thread involving Google now. But the three big public deprecations I'm aware of are Reader, Inbox, and G+. All consumer products. All the other stuff on that killed by Google site is stuff I've barely even heard of, and all consumer products.

To my knowledge, no major GCP component has ever been deprecated. Am I missing something? This seems like it has just become a groupthink HN meme at this point.

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