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Re: Chrome will Soon Let You Share Links to a Specific Word or Sentence on a Page

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Post by SquareWheel »

_bxg1 wrote: post #14

It seems like more and more, Google is leveraging their near-monopoly on web browsing to just skip the proposal process and do whatever they want without discussion.

Do you actually follow spec discussions, or are you just guessing? From what I have observed the Chrome, Firefox, and Safari teams are in constant communication. They discuss new features, implementation details, and potential pitfalls.

Despite all the suggestions of "browser wars", they're actually very friendly and collaborative.

Re: Chrome will Soon Let You Share Links to a Specific Word or Sentence on a Page

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Post by SquareWheel »

adrianN wrote: post #46
dannyr wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you on Google's monopoly but imagine if every browser has to go through proposal process to release any feature? Everything will just stagnate. Browsers copy features from each other. If this is a useful feature, it would make its way to other browsers pretty soon.

Stagnation is not always bad. For one, it helps keep complexity down. We're at a point where building a browser is impossible unless you have literally millions and millions of dollars to invest. That is not good.

If building from scratch maybe, but when was the last time a browser was built from scratch? Even Chromium was forked from WebKit.

Re: Chrome will Soon Let You Share Links to a Specific Word or Sentence on a Page

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Post by r00fus »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #49

Because that is exactly what we have all been clamoring for. Gee thanks Google. Ok, that is more than a bit dismissive and I shouldn't be as cynical as I am about it but I switched to Firefox for a reason, this crap just keeps interfering. But oh wait, want to watch Youtube.tv in Firefox, oh so sorry you can't because it won't do video acceleration. I remember when you had to run Silverlight to watch Netflix too, tha…

I use Chrome for a few spare things (like Youtube and full-screen gslides) but for all else FF or Safari (both with ublock+umatrix) are much better. FF handles XML rendering way way faster than Chrome - great for my job.

Re: Chrome will Soon Let You Share Links to a Specific Word or Sentence on a Page

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Post by SquareWheel »

ToFab123 wrote: post #50
EGreg wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who are they embracing? They ARE a web based company, why extinguish web browsing?

With AMP they are trying to become the web.

What does that even mean? AMP is built on WebComponents, which are an existing web standard. That's no less standard than anything else using custom elements.

Re: Chrome will Soon Let You Share Links to a Specific Word or Sentence on a Page

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Post by MHordecki »

r00fus wrote: post #53
ChuckMcM wrote: post #49

Because that is exactly what we have all been clamoring for. Gee thanks Google. Ok, that is more than a bit dismissive and I shouldn't be as cynical as I am about it but I switched to Firefox for a reason, this crap just keeps interfering. But oh wait, want to watch Youtube.tv in Firefox, oh so sorry you can't because it won't do video acceleration. I remember when you had to run Silverlight to watch Netflix too, tha…

I use Chrome for a few spare things (like Youtube and full-screen gslides) but for all else FF or Safari (both with ublock+umatrix) are much better. FF handles XML rendering way way faster than Chrome - great for my job.

How do you run umatrix with Safari? I’ve thought it’s not available.

Re: Chrome will Soon Let You Share Links to a Specific Word or Sentence on a Page

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Post by sverhagen »

kkarakk wrote: post #40
int_19h wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've had a time when standards were at the forefront, between the death of the last browser monoculture, and the establishment of the current one. It was good while it lasted.

if you don't specify a timeframe you can't be contested and therefore your nostalgia reads like it is for a time that never existed except in your mind

Aren't they "obviously" talking about Internet Explorer's hegemony "then", Chrome's rise "now"?

Re: Chrome will Soon Let You Share Links to a Specific Word or Sentence on a Page

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Post by adrianN »

SquareWheel wrote: post #52
adrianN wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stagnation is not always bad. For one, it helps keep complexity down. We're at a point where building a browser is impossible unless you have literally millions and millions of dollars to invest. That is not good.

If building from scratch maybe, but when was the last time a browser was built from scratch? Even Chromium was forked from WebKit.

That's my point. The web is so complex that browser engines are becoming a monoculture. Even if you forked Chromium now, you'd need hundreds of engineers just to keep up with all the new things that are constantly added.

Re: Chrome will Soon Let You Share Links to a Specific Word or Sentence on a Page

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Post by misterman0 »

SquareWheel wrote: post #52
adrianN wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stagnation is not always bad. For one, it helps keep complexity down. We're at a point where building a browser is impossible unless you have literally millions and millions of dollars to invest. That is not good.

If building from scratch maybe, but when was the last time a browser was built from scratch? Even Chromium was forked from WebKit.

But since when is it a good thing that the last time someone managed to build a web render engine from scratch was thousands of years ago?

Re: Chrome will Soon Let You Share Links to a Specific Word or Sentence on a Page

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Post by pjtr »

Similar Javascript feature existed for a long time:

Link to first occurrence of "pseudo" on page: https://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLinks#/pseudo

Link to last occurrence of "highlight" on page: https://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/trac/htdocs/js/searc...

Re: Chrome will Soon Let You Share Links to a Specific Word or Sentence on a Page

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Post by chottocharaii »

adrianN wrote: post #46
dannyr wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you on Google's monopoly but imagine if every browser has to go through proposal process to release any feature? Everything will just stagnate. Browsers copy features from each other. If this is a useful feature, it would make its way to other browsers pretty soon.

Stagnation is not always bad. For one, it helps keep complexity down. We're at a point where building a browser is impossible unless you have literally millions and millions of dollars to invest. That is not good.

Why is the possibility of a wheel being reinvented a desirable thing?
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