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Re: Opening the Filecoin Project Repos

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What stops a filecoin miner from storing all replicas to S3? If nothing, then why use filecoin at all? Economies of scale would dictate that the most successful filecoin miners would simply be cloud storage providers by another name (but paid in tokens instead).

> What stops a filecoin miner from storing all replicas to S3?

Being undercut by Amazon running Filecoin on their own?

Re: Opening the Filecoin Project Repos

#52
post #38

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you talk for 15s about it on that video. I will try to read the secondary paper on this... but doesn't look like it can protect against someone just generating hashes for multiple accounts from the same stored data. P and (the fake) P2 can both reply to V with perfectly normalized storage. But regardless if the protection works against bad actors, it definitely "works" against good actors if you take into account sto…

Take a read through Ben's PoRep paper: https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/702

Thanks, I'll take a look.

Re: Opening the Filecoin Project Repos

#53

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Protocol Labs wont integrate filecoin use into IPFS?

Filecoin is essentially IPFS with incentives for data retention and distribution.

Given that so many people do it all for free with very good uptime and connectivity, do you think Filecoin will be something consumers want?

Re: Opening the Filecoin Project Repos

#54
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We have been Apache 2.0 open source from day one. https://github.com/solana-labs/solana Kudos to filecoin! And choosing Apache 2.0 as the license.

Okay? You have... A thing? Probably a similar thing? If you must spam your own thing, at least tell us why we should care about your thing in contrast to the actual subject of the thread.

My fault!

Filecoin is great!

We are also building a blockchain that is based around Verifiable Delay Functions and has been open source from day one.

VDFs can be used to track time in a permissionless network in a way that works before consensus. Which opens up a wealth of distributed systems optimizations that involve a synchronized clock. If that sound interesting, check out https://github.com/solana-labs/solana

Re: Opening the Filecoin Project Repos

#55
post #50

What stops a filecoin miner from storing all replicas to S3? If nothing, then why use filecoin at all? Economies of scale would dictate that the most successful filecoin miners would simply be cloud storage providers by another name (but paid in tokens instead).

> What stops a filecoin miner from storing all replicas to S3? Being undercut by Amazon running Filecoin on their own?

So filecoin would just be a slower, less scalable, and more costly way to pay for S3?

Re: Opening the Filecoin Project Repos

#56
post #50

What stops a filecoin miner from storing all replicas to S3? If nothing, then why use filecoin at all? Economies of scale would dictate that the most successful filecoin miners would simply be cloud storage providers by another name (but paid in tokens instead).

it's possible that some miners choose to store their data on S3 or some other large/well known cloud provider. However, miners have other options as well. For instance, they could store their data in their own data centers or with more start-up storage providers without needing all the marketing resources that Amazon, Microsoft, Google, etc. have.

One of the use cases I'm looking forward to seeing from Filecoin though is for regular folks with desktops that have extra storage capacity to just rent that capacity out. Right now the extra 500GB of storage space I have is just an unutilized resource waiting to be made use of. Additionally, it allows people to basically swap data capacity so I'll store 500GB of data for other people, and in return I'll use that Filecoin to pay other people to store my data. This is could be very useful for personal data backup where my primary requirement is that my data live somewhere else that is not on my computer.

Re: Opening the Filecoin Project Repos

#57
post #45

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What scale is "noticeable"? Is it slower than "we're going to pretend the network is slow and send you 1KB/s until we generate the rest"?

1kb is much larger than most hashes.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say by that.
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