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I fly out to California 5 days a week for consulting work currently. I live in Texas. So does my wife and dog. My paycheck’s now include the 13% deduction from California :( I’m leaving this project as soon as possible. Would happily pay 13% more for federal income tax FWIW.
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Let's be a bit honest here. California public infrastructure has hardly contributed to the windfall people are getting due to their work in the tech industry.
Does the UC system not count as "public infrastructure"?? I wouldn't be surprised if the UCs are the core driver for a lot of California's growth over the decades.
I fly out to California 5 days a week for consulting work currently. I live in Texas. So does my wife and dog. My paycheck’s now include the 13% deduction from California :( I’m leaving this project as soon as possible. Would happily pay 13% more for federal income tax FWIW.
Why does a 13% tax to California bother you if a 13 percentage point increase in tax to some other entity doesn’t? Is it dislike of California? Dislike of state taxes? This reminds me of an experiment I read in - I think - Nudge . A random group of people were given the scenario of being at a store and about to buy a box of chocolate for $10. Just before they purchase it they find out they can buy it at a store a few…
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And 99% of the world would act in the same way if they had the luxury of that problem. I understand why Leftist populists love attributing some sort of exceptional immorality to the wealthy, but people act on incentives. Give them an incentive to leave and they will leave.
If you live in California, you obey California laws or you go to California jail. If you don't agree with what California has decided is necessary for a healthy society, you have states like Mississippi and Louisiana to choose from. Good luck finding a high-paying job there.
As someone that lives in the Bay Area, I wouldn't mind it if our taxes were being used effectively. But we do so little with so much . The state of our infrastructure, public transit and the homeless situation is embarrassing. Especially in SF. The conversation about taxes always seems to be so shallow to the point of being binary. One side saying we need to increase taxes to fix things, the other saying we need to d…
Of course, there is Prop 13, which greatly harmed the state's ability to collect taxes.
Finally, I'd argue that efficiency is impossible as long as the government continues to use the same just-in-time models that the private sector uses. The main problem being that there is no guarantee of work or quality when a contractor is hired by a government. We either need those guarantees or we need to switch back to in-house work.
A major issue is that California pays for its own stuff, but it also has to pay for most other states’ stuff as well. A lot of other states get by with lower state tax simply because they are net receivers of federal taxes which supplements stuff Californians pay for themselves.
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And 99% of the world would act in the same way if they had the luxury of that problem. I understand why Leftist populists love attributing some sort of exceptional immorality to the wealthy, but people act on incentives. Give them an incentive to leave and they will leave.
Quite - Leftists reframe the question "Why do you need that money?" when the one we should be asking is "Why is the state entitled to it?"
Good luck with that - if you have a California license plates, drivers license, or they can prove you show up pretty frequently to a California located job - you are going to get caught doing this and fined extensively. Also, WTF: You took advantage of all of the infrastructure of a state to get rich and now you don't want to contribute back? Shame on you and may karma come around for you.
Lol, have you ever actually been to California? The infrastructure was all built in the 1960s, and appears to have been abandoned as thoroughly as the Roman aqueduct system after the barbarian invasions. Easily the most corrupt state I've ever seen; most of the money goes to buying votes.
Don't get out much?
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Likewise here in Washington state. All the Californians are fleeing here and implementing the exact same polices that drove them to leave. Odd.
I lived in Seattle in 1993 and people were saying the same thing then. I know that sounds like a snarky throw away comment, but my point is just that people thought the same thing in 1993. I don't know if it's different now, could be.
A major issue is that California pays for its own stuff, but it also has to pay for most other states’ stuff as well. A lot of other states get by with lower state tax simply because they are net receivers of federal taxes which supplements stuff Californians pay for themselves.