Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Raspberry Pi Opens First High Street Store in Cambridge

bbc.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

51–60 of 153 posts

Re: Raspberry Pi Opens First High Street Store in Cambridge

#51

Post by dcbadacd »

bsder wrote: post #50
dcbadacd wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can require that, but only when it uses USB3.0-PD.

That's not entirely correct. It seems like the issue is current spikes, and those can occur under far more conditions (HDMI, external USB devices, etc.). I suspect that beefing up the power system filtering would reduce the power supply maximum current requirements quite dramatically.

What I meant is that I'm annoyed by the lack of compatibility with standards that could provide the required amount of power to a rPi, the current microUSB implementation is awful and shouldn't be repeated.

Re: Raspberry Pi Opens First High Street Store in Cambridge

#52

Post by dcbadacd »

danaos wrote: post #46
ChrisRR wrote: post #25

Hurry up and announce a Raspberry Pi 4 already! I want to give you more money

The rpi foundation are in trouble. The current SoC is old, limited at 1GB maximum RAM, and the GPU core is dated from 2011, 8 years ago. In my opinion they should severe ties with Broadloom and open up to global competition.

There's also no crypto core and 64bit userland support (that could allow actually secure ASLR).

Re: Raspberry Pi Opens First High Street Store in Cambridge

#53

Post by mustardo »

FerretFred wrote: post #34
ChrisRR wrote: post #25

Hurry up and announce a Raspberry Pi 4 already! I want to give you more money

Same here, but only if it doesn't need > 3.5 amp PSU.

3.5A @ 240v or 5v? Watt is "power" current is largely meaningless without voltage

Re: Raspberry Pi Opens First High Street Store in Cambridge

#54

Post by fsloth »

danaos wrote: post #46
ChrisRR wrote: post #25

Hurry up and announce a Raspberry Pi 4 already! I want to give you more money

The rpi foundation are in trouble. The current SoC is old, limited at 1GB maximum RAM, and the GPU core is dated from 2011, 8 years ago. In my opinion they should severe ties with Broadloom and open up to global competition.

There is inherent value in having a stable, battle tested platform. The fact that the same chip has been sold for general public for the last 8 years is to me rather appealing than a turn off.

Given the complexity of the modern software stack, there have been a zillion bugs that have ruined someone elses day and have been hopefully fixed.

Although, I have no idea of the support quality of the Pi foundation since I have not used their products.

The platform is sufficiently beefy to run lot of non-trivial applications. It's not like those applications have magically increased in complexity.

We've just been brainwashed in the consumer space to always demand bigger numbers so that the vendors have something new to sell. There is really no need for a certain category of desktop applications to get any slower with time, or, to be able to provide any more value regardless how fast they are run if the interactivity level is already so fast that improvements would be undetectable by humans.

Note: this is not an argument that the current Pi "is fast enough for everything". I'm saying it's fast enough for some things, and the mature software stack is considerable added value.

Re: Raspberry Pi Opens First High Street Store in Cambridge

#55

Post by ekianjo »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #41
bdz wrote: post #3

Some photos of the store https://twitter.com/Raspberry_Pi/status/1093454153534398464

Looks like an Apple Store light edition. Not really convinced the design and branding of the store matches up well with the realities of their actual product.

Yeah. Brand-wise, I would rather see the Raspberry Pi shop like a kind of bazaar where you find everything in all sorts of places rather than a very tidy and clean place where everything is in order. The "everything should look like what Apple does" is really tiring and generic these days.

Re: Raspberry Pi Opens First High Street Store in Cambridge

#56

Post by snazz »

mustardo wrote: post #53
FerretFred wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here, but only if it doesn't need > 3.5 amp PSU.

3.5A @ 240v or 5v? Watt is "power" current is largely meaningless without voltage

At 5V. 17.5 watts (absolute maximum), not 840 or 420 watts.

Re: Raspberry Pi Opens First High Street Store in Cambridge

#57

Post by johnnycab »

jdietrich wrote: post #35
close04 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That actually looks like it costs a bit. I wonder if they get a good return on the investment. Would more people decide to buy into the RPi ecosystem because they walked into the store as opposed to reading about it all over the internet or talking to friends? It's a running cost so it has to bring a steady flow of income to pay for itself. Hard to do in a relatively niche market with a good product that depreciates…

Malls and shopping centres are really struggling, as they are in the US. If you're a mall with a number of vacant units, you may be more than willing to lease a unit to an interesting business at a cheap rate; an empty unit earns you nothing and makes the overall retail experience less attractive. Raspberry Pi is the kind of product that could really benefit from a quality retail experience. I suspect there are a lot…

> Raspberry Pi is the kind of product that could really benefit from a quality retail experience.

I don't know about the experience, but this product has some retail presence in US & Canada.

https://kano.me/us

Re: Raspberry Pi Opens First High Street Store in Cambridge

#58

Post by hrktb »

ekianjo wrote: post #55
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like an Apple Store light edition. Not really convinced the design and branding of the store matches up well with the realities of their actual product.

Yeah. Brand-wise, I would rather see the Raspberry Pi shop like a kind of bazaar where you find everything in all sorts of places rather than a very tidy and clean place where everything is in order. The "everything should look like what Apple does" is really tiring and generic these days.

Perhaps their thinking is that you can already find the Pi in bazaar kind of shops full of electronics parts and really aimed at tinkerers.

This shop could be more for luring new users and making it look simple for a first approach.

Re: Raspberry Pi Opens First High Street Store in Cambridge

#59

Post by pjc50 »

danaos wrote: post #46
ChrisRR wrote: post #25

Hurry up and announce a Raspberry Pi 4 already! I want to give you more money

The rpi foundation are in trouble. The current SoC is old, limited at 1GB maximum RAM, and the GPU core is dated from 2011, 8 years ago. In my opinion they should severe ties with Broadloom and open up to global competition.

Objectively, they don't seem to be in trouble, they seem to be expanding. The stable ecosystem with documentation aimed at beginners is the product, and it's a popular one. It's not as performance-dependent as you might think.

Re: Raspberry Pi Opens First High Street Store in Cambridge

#60

Post by wc_cs »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #41
bdz wrote: post #3

Some photos of the store https://twitter.com/Raspberry_Pi/status/1093454153534398464

Looks like an Apple Store light edition. Not really convinced the design and branding of the store matches up well with the realities of their actual product.

I believe they're trying to market to the general public. If Apple stores are good at turning heads from how they are designed, then it makes sense to apply that design to their own store. It's about getting people inside.
Post reply on HN