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Re: TextMate finally gets an update

#51

Post by jshen »

tres wrote: post #47
jshen wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IDEs have a high cost (learning curve, complexity, etc) that is not worth the benefit for dynamic languages. I'm not sure what the gaping hole is the op is talking about. Textmate is an awesome editor and it doesn't matter that there hasn't been an update in a while. The only thing I really miss with text mate is good git integration.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to change anyone's mind about TextMate; it does just what a bunch of people want it to. That's awesome! I used it for quite a while. Heck, I still use it for simple editing. Personally, once I tried an IDE with integrated context sensitive help, inline syntax checking, real indenting, etc. TextMate didn't seem to solve the problems that I needed it to solve. It just became a fancy n…

i use netbeans a lot for java, and I've tried a few times to use it for ruby but it doesn't do much more than textmate for ruby. For that little bit extra it uses between 1-2 gigs of ram (instead of 50 megs), requires more setup and maintenance, you can't just drop a ruby folder on it and go, etc. All of the auto completion, real time docs, etc are flaky as hell with a language like ruby. It really has no idea what methods exist on an object, or what class an object is. And heaven forbid I want to open something crazy like a bash script in netbeans.

Also, and I've never understood why this is, plugins seem to be much more fragile on the big IDEs than the editors like emacs, vim, and textmate. You'd think they'd break less with all the static typing of java, but in my experience I've had far more problems with them.

I do love the git integration though. That's the one thing I really wish textmate or emacs had.

Re: TextMate finally gets an update

#52

Post by hexley »

stretchwithme wrote: post #35

Thanks. I applied it earlier. One thing that drives me insane: I cannot see path of files in a folder. If there are duplicate file names, I have to modify the file and then open directories where I think it could be and to see if it has that "not yet saved" state. Is there a quick way to do this I am unaware of? Or is it a feature coming in the future? Hope you enjoy a nice restful weekend after your hard work gettin…

Command-click the title bar of any document to reveal the path hierarchy.

Re: TextMate finally gets an update

#53

Post by hexley »

simonw wrote: post #45
xtacy wrote: post #5

This doesn't seem to be that much of a change. Is there a wish list that people loved to see?

I use TextMate as a scratch pad for small pieces of code / temporary clipboard storage quite often - and occasionally lose them when my computer crashes. Auto-save of untitled new documents would make life more pleasant.

Try TextEdit.app

Re: TextMate finally gets an update

#54

Post by stretchwithme »

hexley wrote: post #52
stretchwithme wrote: post #35

Thanks. I applied it earlier. One thing that drives me insane: I cannot see path of files in a folder. If there are duplicate file names, I have to modify the file and then open directories where I think it could be and to see if it has that "not yet saved" state. Is there a quick way to do this I am unaware of? Or is it a feature coming in the future? Hope you enjoy a nice restful weekend after your hard work gettin…

Command-click the title bar of any document to reveal the path hierarchy.

You have to click right on the file name, but yeah that does it. Thanks!

Re: TextMate finally gets an update

#55

Post by binarysoul »

jshen wrote: post #51
tres wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to change anyone's mind about TextMate; it does just what a bunch of people want it to. That's awesome! I used it for quite a while. Heck, I still use it for simple editing. Personally, once I tried an IDE with integrated context sensitive help, inline syntax checking, real indenting, etc. TextMate didn't seem to solve the problems that I needed it to solve. It just became a fancy n…

i use netbeans a lot for java, and I've tried a few times to use it for ruby but it doesn't do much more than textmate for ruby. For that little bit extra it uses between 1-2 gigs of ram (instead of 50 megs), requires more setup and maintenance, you can't just drop a ruby folder on it and go, etc. All of the auto completion, real time docs, etc are flaky as hell with a language like ruby. It really has no idea what m…

Emacs has git integration, have a look on emacs wiki

Re: TextMate finally gets an update

#56

Post by jshen »

binarysoul wrote: post #55
jshen wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i use netbeans a lot for java, and I've tried a few times to use it for ruby but it doesn't do much more than textmate for ruby. For that little bit extra it uses between 1-2 gigs of ram (instead of 50 megs), requires more setup and maintenance, you can't just drop a ruby folder on it and go, etc. All of the auto completion, real time docs, etc are flaky as hell with a language like ruby. It really has no idea what m…

Emacs has git integration, have a look on emacs wiki

I've tried most of them and they didn't really do what I wanted. I don't want to do all my git commands from my editor, but I want my editor to visualize important stuff for the files I'm looking at. In netbeans the gutter of the open file is color coded to show how the code your looking at is different from HEAD (or whatever).

Re: TextMate finally gets an update

#57

Post by Timothee »

hexley wrote: post #52
stretchwithme wrote: post #35

Thanks. I applied it earlier. One thing that drives me insane: I cannot see path of files in a folder. If there are duplicate file names, I have to modify the file and then open directories where I think it could be and to see if it has that "not yet saved" state. Is there a quick way to do this I am unaware of? Or is it a feature coming in the future? Hope you enjoy a nice restful weekend after your hard work gettin…

Command-click the title bar of any document to reveal the path hierarchy.

This works pretty much in every document-based app and Finder, by the way.

Re: TextMate finally gets an update

#58

Post by Timothee »

X-Istence wrote: post #3

TextMate is my favourite editor on the Mac, only recently have I been using MacVim on my work computer since as a startup they are unable to purchase a license for TextMate. Honestly though, there are some things in MacVim I am now starting to miss in TextMate.

It seemed to me that the Textmate license was actually allowing you to use your own license for home and work use.

Actually, confirmed from the site: http://macromates.com/license_policy

"A user is allowed to bring his personal license with him to work, should the company allow it, and use that."

There you go, problem solved!

Re: TextMate finally gets an update

#59

Post by stretchwithme »

Timothee wrote: post #57
hexley wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Command-click the title bar of any document to reveal the path hierarchy.

This works pretty much in every document-based app and Finder, by the way.

Yes, it does. In Preview, for example.

The fog is clearing. Thanks.

Re: TextMate finally gets an update

#60

Post by jonhohle »

hexley wrote: post #53
simonw wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use TextMate as a scratch pad for small pieces of code / temporary clipboard storage quite often - and occasionally lose them when my computer crashes. Auto-save of untitled new documents would make life more pleasant.

Try TextEdit.app

Or Notational Velocity
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