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TSA acknowledges financial stress of shutdown is forcing officers to stay home

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While i don't envy their position - i think describing it as working without pay as a little disingenuous - while they have yet to be paid for the work they are performing, does anyone really believe that they are not going to be paid for their work down the road?

Congress already signed off on giving everyone back pay and I've read that they will be giving out a 1 day's pay and a $500 bonus to all TSA officers. It helps cushion the blow of having a $0.00 paycheck but it doesn't fix the situation. You have people not being able to pay rent and mortgages. The bank will be fine but a landlord might not be so fine, they will have to dig into savings to make mortgage payments. Tha…

It boggles my mind how the new normal consists of re-living the 'best' part of the collapse of the Soviet Union - the part where people had to go to work, but weren't getting paid for it.

Of course, in the Soviet Union, you didn't have rent and mortgage payments to make, bread and vodka was provided through rations, and during the collapse, nobody cared too much if you looted your workplace of anything that wasn't nailed down, or couldn't be pried off, so society kind of stumbled along, despite the lack of wages.

What I really don't understand is why this isn't being treated like the recurring, front-page, every-headline, national emergency that this is.

For bonus points: These employees are forbidden, by law, to do a strike, or perform a work stoppage, or a work slowdown. If CBP actually carried one out, though, this 'crisis' would be resolved in under 24 hours, as every single company in the United States that had an international supply chain would be screaming at the White House to get this problem fixed.

Re: TSA acknowledges financial stress of shutdown is forcing officers to stay home

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I wonder if Uber/Lyft has seen a jump in driver sign ups since the shutdown. Not sure how fast their onboarding is...but probably faster than trying to find a new job / temp job?

I would imagine faster, but certainly more reliable depending on your skill set.

Re: TSA acknowledges financial stress of shutdown is forcing officers to stay home

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She said her fellow officers are “out there working, they’re putting their lives on the line. We took that oath when we got hired here, and we’re not even getting what we deserve.” All budgeting problems aside, how do TSA officers put their lives on the line?

You don't think screening for bombs has any potential to be dangerous?

You may as well say that construction workers, electricians and pizza delivery drivers are out there, putting their lives on the line

Re: TSA acknowledges financial stress of shutdown is forcing officers to stay home

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She said her fellow officers are “out there working, they’re putting their lives on the line. We took that oath when we got hired here, and we’re not even getting what we deserve.” All budgeting problems aside, how do TSA officers put their lives on the line?

I guess they think they're law officers or something. They're more akin to security guards. I hate that individuals are not able to go to work and earn a wage but I really thing the TSA is full of themselves.

Even safer than being a security guard I bet.

I'd say their risk profile is limited to someone attacking the checkpoint explosively, which has not happened.

Nobody goes to rob the till or start a knife fight at the airport.

There's too many people for anything short of large scale violent crime, which is pretty rare.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember before all the TSA nonsense, airports had metal detectors and xrays operated by airport security? Did they not also prevent guns from being carried on planes?

Isn't TSA just Airport Security ?

No, it's also a power and money hungry agency. The airport security of yore just did their jobs and were a lot more pleasant to deal with. The traveling public was just as safe.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that is true, then technically anyone at the airport is putting their lives on the line. No one life is worth more than another, so arguing they are putting their lives on the line is an attempt at controlling the conversation. That said, the airport is a TSA run security theater: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_theater . They know this, of course, but must act otherwise.

I was being sarsactic. The TSA is nonsense and a huge waste of money not to mention time.

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Only one TSA officer has ever been killed on-duty, and they have a total of 57,000 employees as of 2016 [1]. Not all of them are inspection agents (maybe 1/3? I'll use 20,000), but they've been an agency since 9/11 (I'll use 17 years). That makes 1 death per 340,000 agent-years. Admittedly I don't know how their total employee number has changed over time, and my 1/3 estimate could be wildly off. Meanwhile the statis…

It's worth pondering that the overwhelming majority of police deaths are injuries when an inattentive driver runs over an officer during a traffic stop. Only a suicidal maniac would stand for an extended time on the drivers side of a stopped car on the highway. It would be a boon to public health if the police could just photograph a traffic offender and send him the ticket in the mail! The police unions would be dis…

Maybe it's regional, but when I see police officers pulling someone over they almost always go to the passenger window.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember before all the TSA nonsense, airports had metal detectors and xrays operated by airport security? Did they not also prevent guns from being carried on planes?

Isn't TSA just Airport Security ?

I don't think local airport security back in the day had a nationally organized no-fly list.
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