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RTFA: > If you live in the rest of Europe: please contact the ministers working on the Copyright in the Digital Single Market directive. We'll update this page with more information as we get it.
What about those of us who don't live in Europe?
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> In Denmark, we've had 'cinnamon patrols' go from bakery to bakery to verify that only the allowed amount of cinnamon was sprinkled on buns. Is this for real? I know it's anecdotal but I find it hilarious > I could write a list much longer, but in general I think the Unix approach works: Many small things that each do one thing well. The EU is the opposite: One giant thing which does nothing well Well...I'm sure man…
Yeah I'm afraid the example is quite real. But sure, example could be dug up of good things the EU have done. But even in those cases the cost is much too great. For instance, they built a really nice hallway at the Parliament, but when it came time to name it, they assigned 76 diplomats and the president of the EU to work through the name. That alone ended up costing something like 11 million euros. I can't think of…
Citation please? I can't find anything about that online, and I'd expect that to be a scandal that'd be easily found!
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#53I wonder whyI always get downvoted into oblivion for stating that which to me is an obvious fact: The EU is too far removed from reality to legislate. It now has a long and sordid history of over-doing things to the extreme. In Denmark, we've had 'cinnamon patrols' go from bakery to bakery to verify that only the allowed amount of cinnamon was sprinkled on buns. We had what felt like a complete shutdown of IT departm…
Beside legislating the amount of cinnamon bakeries use, the EU handles so many important things that a small country like denmark will never have the resources to handle. This in no way means that they are perfect, but work to improve it instead.
We have this big project, it has been running in production for 15 years, it solves a lot of problems, but there are of course some technical debt that we should find the time to improve and fix. In my head you are the new guy telling everyone that we should rewrite it.
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>I wonder whyI always get downvoted into oblivion for stating that which to me is an obvious fact Well when you write obviously non factual nonsense like >The EU is the opposite: One giant thing which does nothing well You tend to get downvoted. When you write hilarious nonsense like this >In Denmark, we've had 'cinnamon patrols' go from bakery to bakery to verify that only the allowed amount of cinnamon was sprinkle…
>You tend to get downvoted. When you write hilarious nonsense like this Can you name anything the EU has done well?
Re: EU Copyright Directive is a catastrophe for free expression and competition
#55Right to be Forgotten, GDPR, and now this... pretty soon the barrier to entry will be so high that no new players would be able to get off the ground with an internet company in Europe.
[citation needed] Right to be Forgotten affects search engines. GDPR is common sense, allow users to delete their data. If you make aggregate data of your users and their behavior then it's not their data anymore. Tax law is a lot more complicated yet never stopped anyone from innovating if there was an economic niche waiting for them.
Of course tax law has stopped people from innovating. It's one of the biggest drains on competition and economic growth. Taxes would be the biggest source of economic efficiency even if they weren't as complex as they are.
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#56It's alarming that there appears to be no provision for fair use of copyrighted materials. I'm not in the EU, but that would seem to be a grave oversight. One can imagine an image or any copyrightable material which might become offensive or embarrassing might get copyrighted so as to in effect censor the material.
The closest equivalent in Europe would be something like the fair dealing provisions here in England and their counterparts in other member states, but those tend to enumerate specific scenarios where copying may be lawful without the permission of the copyright holder, rather than the US approach of specifying a small number of general principles and leaving it to the courts to resolve any specific case.
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Yeah. Remove EU and I'm sure Russia will be happy to take over your little countries. Individually European countries are pretty weak. They're only strong as a common entity.
Pretty sure NATO would survive the dismantling of some bureaucracy.
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[citation needed] Right to be Forgotten affects search engines. GDPR is common sense, allow users to delete their data. If you make aggregate data of your users and their behavior then it's not their data anymore. Tax law is a lot more complicated yet never stopped anyone from innovating if there was an economic niche waiting for them.
Any regulation is a barrier to entry. The more complicated the regulation is, the worse it is for competition. Of course tax law has stopped people from innovating. It's one of the biggest drains on competition and economic growth. Taxes would be the biggest source of economic efficiency even if they weren't as complex as they are.
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I'm glad you find it hillarious. You must not be paying for it.
For anybody following along, this kind of garbage rhetoric is exactly how Brexit started. 1. Spread misinformation and sow discontent against the EU 2. ??? 3. Profit
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>I wonder whyI always get downvoted into oblivion for stating that which to me is an obvious fact Well when you write obviously non factual nonsense like >The EU is the opposite: One giant thing which does nothing well You tend to get downvoted. When you write hilarious nonsense like this >In Denmark, we've had 'cinnamon patrols' go from bakery to bakery to verify that only the allowed amount of cinnamon was sprinkle…
>You tend to get downvoted. When you write hilarious nonsense like this Can you name anything the EU has done well?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/sep/19/europe...
It's from 2012, but the vast majority of what's said there is still true.