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Re: Ask HN: Which Wiki or internal documentation tools do you use?

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Post by MediumD »

kiejo wrote: post #43
013a wrote: post #18

Confluence. It's not bad. It's not great either. Which is pretty much the best way to describe all Atlassian products. It's unbearable on slow or spotty internet connections. It's riddled with bugs (just the other day my spacebar literally stopped working in their edit view). The formatting gets in your way more than markdown, but at least not as much as something like OneNote. But, it's powerful. Like any Atlassian…

If you want something similar to Dropbox Paper, but better optimized towards long-term documentation, you should give Nuclino ( https://www.nuclino.com ) a try. In terms of organization capabilities it is similar to Confluence. But I'm the CTO so I'm obviously biased.

Just a head-ups, I think your signup form is broken. I was trying to create an account to try it out and nothing happens if I click 'continue'.

Re: Ask HN: Which Wiki or internal documentation tools do you use?

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Post by kiejo »

MediumD wrote: post #51
kiejo wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want something similar to Dropbox Paper, but better optimized towards long-term documentation, you should give Nuclino ( https://www.nuclino.com ) a try. In terms of organization capabilities it is similar to Confluence. But I'm the CTO so I'm obviously biased.

Just a head-ups, I think your signup form is broken. I was trying to create an account to try it out and nothing happens if I click 'continue'.

Thanks for the information! We did not notice any anomality and are receiving signups, but are looking into what might have caused the issue. In case it's a persistent issue for you, it would be awesome if you could contact us via email so we can further investigate the issue.

Re: Ask HN: Which Wiki or internal documentation tools do you use?

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Post by kiejo »

cclements wrote: post #49
kiejo wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want something similar to Dropbox Paper, but better optimized towards long-term documentation, you should give Nuclino ( https://www.nuclino.com ) a try. In terms of organization capabilities it is similar to Confluence. But I'm the CTO so I'm obviously biased.

Beautiful looking product. Any plans for a self-hosted version? Cloud based storage of a lot of information I deal with is a no go.

Thanks for the kind words. Unfortunately we have no plans for a self-hosted version. We understand that this is a no go for certain companies and types of information.

Re: Ask HN: Which Wiki or internal documentation tools do you use?

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Post by btschaegg »

013a wrote: post #18

Confluence. It's not bad. It's not great either. Which is pretty much the best way to describe all Atlassian products. It's unbearable on slow or spotty internet connections. It's riddled with bugs (just the other day my spacebar literally stopped working in their edit view). The formatting gets in your way more than markdown, but at least not as much as something like OneNote. But, it's powerful. Like any Atlassian…

I broadly agree with your assessment of confluence (maybe with the difference that I'd draw the "bad" line really close to it).

However, I've had a different experience to this one:

> You can organize your company workspaces however you'd like.

...unless you want to, say, include two subsubsubpages with the same title in the same space. You want a space per project? You want to put documentation for multiple major versions into Confluence? Atlassian tells you "Nope".

Which is my main gripe with Atlassian about now. There's a pretty old ticket on the titles thing, with loads of comments asking to change this. It was simply ignored.

With Jira, there was the same thing: The release management part has some limitations, someone opened a ticket, hundreds of customers agreed, Atlassian closed it. And allthough their final comment starts with "we listen to and value your feedback", it states that no, this won't be solved. Ever.

Edit: Oh, and don't get me started on their search.

Re: Ask HN: Which Wiki or internal documentation tools do you use?

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Post by Aeolun »

kiejo wrote: post #55
cclements wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Beautiful looking product. Any plans for a self-hosted version? Cloud based storage of a lot of information I deal with is a no go.

Thanks for the kind words. Unfortunately we have no plans for a self-hosted version. We understand that this is a no go for certain companies and types of information.

Basically all enterprises. We really need a viable alternative to Atlassian :/

Re: Ask HN: Which Wiki or internal documentation tools do you use?

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Post by Karunamon »

drugme wrote: post #44

I'd be curious if anyone can summarize the tradeoffs between Confluence + MediaWiki at some point. From what I've seen it seems to come down to: (1) MediaWiki is definitely more responsive (Confluence can be quite slow) and, importantly, considerably more expressive -- provide you can learn Markdown, which basically anyone can. (2) But you're essentially stuck with email-based logins which can be a dealbreaker to som…

I find that the admin side of Mediawiki is downright painful. Installing plugins requires mucking around in a config file on the server (it’s just another PHP app), and any errors in that file lead to a blank white page, rather than a useful error message.

I also found scaling MW harder than Confluence, as unintuitive as that sounds. Same goes for troubleshooting speed problems.

Re: Ask HN: Which Wiki or internal documentation tools do you use?

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Post by unixhero »

nikivi wrote: post #48

My entire wiki lives on GitHub ( https://github.com/nikitavoloboev/knowledge ). I then use GitBook to publish it on the web and have fancy features like search and contents table on the side. https://wiki.nikitavoloboev.xyz Been using this approach for over a year now and I love how seamless the workflow of updating files in Sublime Text, pushing it to GitHub and seeing it live is. At this point my entire knowledge b…

It's a pretty good wiki! I'm reading some of your material now :)
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